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A Mustache Paints a Thousand Words

12/2/2011

 
My travels took me to a very wealthy, shall we say, white, suburb of San Francisco the other day. It’s a beautiful, bucolic town. Not my cup of tea. But nobody really asked.  It costs a lot of money to live in a community like this. Most people are very nice, law abiding, and well meaning. And blonde.

Before heading home, I stopped at the Post Office to mail some things. This is what greeted me:

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I had heard of Lyndon Larouche, but had never bothered to research his paranoia, excuse me, positions. But whatever they were, I couldn’t imagine they merited an Adolf-style mustache on the President of the United States.

“Why have you made the president look like Hitler?” I calmly asked one of the two women at the tables.

“President Obama is ruining the world economy,” one answered.

“But what is it necessary to put that mustache on him?” I asked again.

“Because he is just like Adolf Hitler,” she replied without blinking.

“Adolf Hitler targeted, isolated, and murdered millions of Jews,” I said, ramping it up a bit.

“And how many people will die because of President Obama?” the woman said.    

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I would like to tell you that I shot back with something intelligent and worthy of Mr. Obama. But I didn’t. The vacancy in this woman’s eyes was not a challenge. The mental illness that invites people to provoke others is a no-win situation. I couldn’t engage with her crazy.

The irony of this, of course, is all the information that has been written about Larouche’s cause and it’s connections to right wing/white supremacy/ Hitler sympathizing organizations and teachings.

Listen, I know as much as the next person that these ladies have a constitutional right to paste a clearly unique mustache that telegraphs only one thing on a photo of the president of our country. 

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But is it necessary? Really? And must they assault people outside of federal property with such a disrespectful and disgraceful image? Really?

And why is it that Occupy protestors all around the country have been hammered by police , when these women are allowed to display this garbage in peace and tranquility?

The Glass Steagal - Hitler connection is a stretch for me. Call me dense, but it’s a stretch. These people are disgusting. Is there no respect left anywhere for anyone?

Say what you will about George Bush - and believe me, I never had one good word to say about him - I never dreamed of drawing an Adolph Hitler mustache on his face.

Nor would I ever do such a thing on Newt, Mitt, Michele, or even Sarah, all of whom I loathe.

This is the nutjobery that our president faces every day...at the same time that politicians in Poland are saying that what they fear the most from Germany right now is that Merkel won't act fast enough to staunch the bleeding in the EEU which, might I add, will flow across the pond to our shores if the debt crisis there is not dealt with. 

Hope that Larouchey thing works out for these two women. Just sayin.’

Bob Clark
12/2/2011 01:42:32 am

I agree with you Laura. The thing that gets me is that many of the "low information" voters have such a closed and racist mindset.
If you cover the mustache and look at the picture I see a very compassionate person, I see hope, and empathy.
I have come to the conclusion that minds all ready set to hate aren't going to change. Not in 1 year not in 50 years.

Philadelphia Condos link
4/19/2012 08:33:14 pm

Real Estate is local and delicate in this economy. Tere people were talented and they know how to deal with the customers.They were expert and a pleasure to work with.them.

Laura Novak
12/2/2011 01:50:53 am

Thank you, Bob. I agree. There is simply no explaining it or arguing against it. In fact, with all the world's problems and the complexity of the financial turmoil the entire world faces, it's ludicrous to think that Obama is responsible for it all.

It's the perverse Hitler mustache that's so disturbing, especially in light of Larouche's own history.

Thanks for weighing in.

lilly lily
12/2/2011 02:01:29 am

The Lyndon La Rouche people parked their carcasses in front of our local post office last summer with the Hitler mustache poster. A republican town, voted the best in the central part of our state.

People did protest. In fact the mayors wife told me she told the two men who manned this travesty off in no uncertain terms.

They got nothing for it but disdain and a sunburn in spite of a big umbrella.

It is a free country and they had the right to set up their hate shop right there on the sidewalk, and we the people stepped around them to walk in the street and ignored them.

Austin
3/5/2013 09:20:10 am

you are just mean

Ottoline
12/2/2011 02:25:59 am

Laura -- why are you keeping the name of this suburb protected? Yes, everyone has freedom of speech, even in this ugly way (I guess), but I'd sure like to know where this took place.

Ottoline
12/2/2011 02:45:01 am

You learn something every day #957632: I'd never heard of Glass Steagall, assumed (from the poster above) it was a person, but no, it's the Glass-Steagall Act, which is described on wiki in a way that is not too clear (lots of criss-cross establishing and repeal of it since 1932) but identifies that Phil Gramm did a bill in 1999 that repealed part of it. McCain was associated with machinations around it 2 years ago. Eliz Warren is quoted as being against its repeal in 1999, so that just confuses me more, because I'd follow Warren anywhere.

molly malone
12/2/2011 02:57:35 am

Was a time when I'd try to reason with the likes of those two women, thinking that facts could trump ignorant opinions. Never worked, of course. So I finally gave up on it.

One approach that does seem to work rather well, however, is to ask questions and keep pressing for answers. For example:

Other person: Obama is a Socialist.

Me: Just so we're on the same page here, what exactly is socialism?

O.P.: It means redistributing the wealth; taking my hard-earned money and giving it to people too lazy to work for a living.

Me: Would it be considered socialism to take your hard-earned money and give it to people who are not too lazy to work for a living?

O.P.: Absolutely that would be socialism.

Me: Are you opposed to all forms of socialism, or do you believe there are some instances where it is okay?

O.P.: What do you think? Look what's happening in those socialist countries in Europe right now. (Note: this is where the O.P. tries to slide off in another generalized direction. Don't let them go there or you'll wind up wondering if you found a rope or lost your horse. Keep bringing the subject back to specifics.)

Me: So you believe you should be allowed to keep all your money?

O.P.: Yes.

Well, enough of that . . . you can see where it's going. The trick is to work from the general to the specific by asking questions, and never supplying answers. There is something greatly satisfying in pressing people to defend their empty slogans and memes, and not giving them an out until they start complaining about getting a headache.

FrostyAK
12/2/2011 03:36:43 am

Wasn't it Reagan who opened the doors to the insane asylums (that's what they were called) and put all the inmates out on the streets? Because the government couldn't afford them anymore? Well, that was the beginning of these types of people sitting on the sidewalk spewing their hatred.

The homeless population bloomed then as well. Of course the homeless population bloomed again with the mortgage insanity allowed by little Bush and his cohorts. An illustration of that insanity - a house on the East Coast bought for $9,000 in 1954, upgraded but then not kept up in recent years, sold for a whopping $239,000. just before the RE bubble burst. Now THAT is insanity...

When Fox noise has crazies spewing their insanity as news, what can we expect from the ummm, lower functioning citizens who listen to that garbage?

Insanity seems to be the core element in my comment, doesn't it? Now the question is - mine or theirs?

Conscious at last!
12/2/2011 03:44:44 am

@ Ottoline --

YES, EXACTLY!!
The LaRouchies ARE trying to confuse people. Let me back up a bit here.

The foot soldiers of the LaRouchies may be zombies, but the leadership is actually slimy and smart.
In the late '60s and '70s, LaRouche's name was Linn Marcus and this group was a LEFT WING entity - called something like "the national caucus of labor committees." They infiltrated SDS, the anti-war movement etc. Their goals were unclear to me at the time. But their people were actually pretty decent. Within a few years, they became a crazy cult trying to expose all types of "government plots."

Now, as for the current right wing nutty stuff that Laura describes here- it's intended to make us oppose whatever these people appear to be for!! Most reasonable folks are repelled by a picture of our president with a Hitler mustache- right? So anything that follows from the promoters of such ugliness should be bad - right?

BUT WHAT IS GLASS- STEGALL? It was an important law that regulated banking!!
If that law was still on the books, the financial crisis we now face would not be as extreme as it is. So the current incarnation of these LaRouchies is essentially trying to make anyone that is in favor of regulating the financial sector appear to be crazy!

Well, well-- who would be against regulating the financial sector-- and who would have the deep pockets to fund this group? Hmm...

Barbara Alfaro link
12/2/2011 04:18:32 am

Remember that old definition of a fanatic? "A fanatic is someone who won't change his mind and won't change the subject." The veiled racism of these people isn't so veiled anymore.

Ottoline
12/2/2011 04:31:01 am

Conscious: Thx for that info. What I don't get is this group saying Glass-Steagall NOW, and Warren also saying (I assume) that it should be reinstated. The wiki is so hard to understand because some are for it, some are for the repeal, some are for reinstating what was repealed, and even more to-ing and fro-ing -- but I'll just have whatever E Warren is having. Just surprises me that these goofy poster people ALSO seem to for it (whatever "it" is, to quote a famous man).

That's why the trust issue is so big: we mere peons are not in a position to understand all the details. That's why I can't support those who criticize Obama on things he seemingly could have done better: I bet (by trusting Obama) that there was more to it, and Obama did the best possible. I have yet to see anything that makes me doubt that view

Ottoline
12/2/2011 05:58:22 am

Oh, cool, I got a lick in re the PalinHoax on The Daily Beast, here:

http://tinyurl.com/7l3l2m4

Ottoline
12/2/2011 06:01:45 am

I see that one can "like" comments on The Daily Beast site, and that keeps them near the top, not buried by new comments. So how about some help here?

mistah charley, ph.d.
12/2/2011 07:24:11 am

Ottoline, I went to the Daily Beast and "liked" your comment there, and I really liked (not-in-quotes) your comment here about the historical background of the LaRouchites, so I hope my response to your "I trust Obama" comment does not seem like an attack on YOU. But maybe it will - if so, I'm sorry. Mostly this is a repost, but there is some new material.

During the summer I wrote, at another blog, "Obama has always been in the pocket of the banksters and the war party". I was immediately and angrily denounced as a "firebagger." But another commenter, an idealistic and hopeful fan of our president, wrote to ask me, "Is it an illusion that Obama is an honest man? That's a huge part of his value, to me. I believe he is. I've never heard anything substantial to the contrary. Do you think he is bought? Any specifics?"

My reply:

"Do you think he is bought?" Maybe you've read Catch-22, by Joseph Heller. Ostensibly a World War II novel of the black comedy genre, it is more accurate history than they teach schoolchildren (according to what I've heard - I wasn't there - before my time). Yossarian tells the shrink, "Doc, they're trying to kill me." The shrink says, "No, no, my friend. They aren't trying to kill you. They're trying to kill EVERYBODY." Somehow, Yossarian is not reassured.

Similarly, I doubt you will be encouraged to learn that I don't think Obama in particular is bought - I think they're ALL bought.

But you ask for specifics. First of all, "you can observe a lot just by watching." In other words, behavior counts more than promises, expressed intentions, sympathies, common values, etc. etc. etc. So let's look at the behavior.

How is he doing on the civil liberties front, and the openness/transparency of government front? Read Glenn Greenwald at Salon.

How is he doing on the killing of foreigners front? Read antiwar.com.

How is he doing on prosecuting all the con men at the finest banks and investment firms, who enriched themselves during the great fraudulent mortgage boom? Read Yves Smith at nakedcapitalism.com.

How is handling our current economic situation? Here I can recommend going to very establishment figures - Paul Krugman, Robert Reich - as well as less mainstream figures such as Michael Hudson.

NEW STUFF INSERTED HERE -

There's a story about Hoja feeding his donkey a little less every day, and just when it had learned to live without eating, it died. This is relevant to the payroll tax reduction/nonreduction issue currently before Congress.

I refer you to "Dean Baker: The Payroll Tax Cut: A Stimulus That Progressives Should Oppose"

http://yubanet.com/opinions/Dean-Baker-The-Payroll-Tax-Cut-A-Stimulus-That-Progressives-Should-Oppose.php#.TtToyWPaLmk

Basically, Baker says that cutting off the Social Security systems dedicated stream of revenue (the food for the donkey) is a prelude to killing the donkey (destroying Social Security as a reliable entitlement that everyone pays for and everyone gets, and eventually making it into a "charity" that goes to "poor people").

See if you don't find Baker's argument reasonable.

As George Carlin said, several years ago, "And now they’re coming for your social security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something. They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later ‘cause they own this fucking place. It’s a big club. And you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy."

Obama, by constricting the food supply to the Social Security System, is objectively assisting The Owners in their long range plan to abolish it.

I'm not putting a little mustache on Obama - but I am saying he's like Bush 43, he's like Clinton, he's like Bush 41, he's like Reagan. He is NOT a person who has the interests of the 99% at heart - he's someone who can GIVE THE IMPRESSION he's that kind of person, while implementing the policies preferred by the MICFiC - the military industrial congressional financial corporate media complex.

[END OF NEW STUFF]

How can such a handsome, friendly, well-educated, articulate man be a war criminal and a central cog in the machinery of the military industrial congressional financial corporate media complex, a conspiracy to use, abuse, and confuse the people, to "milk, shear, and slaughter the sheeple", metaphorically speaking? [Except that the metaphorical sheeple are, in fact, literally slaughtered.]

'Tis a puzzlement.

LakeLucilleLoon
12/2/2011 07:44:25 am

We have our own LaRouchie in Palmer Alaska. He stands on the corner of Evergreen and the Glenn Hwy. He's the same nutbag that was arrested with his Obama/Hitler sign at the State Fair in 2010; he was carrying a weapon. Phil Munger was on the scene when he was arrested and wrote a blog post about it.

I flip him off whenever he is on his corner. He's a crazy old bearded coot that doesn't seem to have a job. I'm sure he's living off the gov't teat with either disability or SS.

Ottoline
12/2/2011 08:20:58 am

Mistah Charley, the "idealistic and hopeful fan" who wrote you was me, using my Amy1 handle. Of course I hope I would never feel your disagreeing with me to be a personal attack!

Sometimes I think it is just a very few of us on these blogs, just going back and forth among the usual suspects. "There are only about 500 people in the world, and the rest is done with mirrors."

Thx for "liking" that comment on Daily Beast. I was hoping with lots of "likes" the columnist would become interested in the hoax. His article is pretty good, I thought, yet not one of the scandals he describes seems as important as the Palin election hoax, and the ban on writing about it in the MSM. But I guess we're just spitting into the ocean now.

No time for Obama right now, but thx for those thoughts.

Tom
12/2/2011 09:15:33 am

@Mistah Charley--And Yossarian insists to the shrink "But I'm crazy!" And the shrink responds, "Of course you're crazy. You'd have to be crazy to fly another mission." That right there is Catch 22.

Funny, Charley, but I think Heller started out naming the novel 'Catch 17' but it was somehow taken so he settled for 'Catch 22'. Funny, funny, brilliant novel.

Ottoline
12/2/2011 11:10:56 am

Speaking of crazy, I think this old joke fits here.

Ottoline is complaining to Charley about her insane brother [insert 10 examples of crazy behavior here, ending with ". . . and he thinks he's a chicken and goes around flapping and cackling all the time"]. Charley says, "But Ottoline, you are a shrink! why don't you heal your brother, or commit him to a therapeutic facility, or SOMETHING?" And Ottoline shrugs "I would, but I need the eggs."

And so it is with our leaders, Charley. They may ALL be tainted to a large or small degree, but we nevertheless have to choose among them. I choose Obama. Who do you choose?

Tom
12/2/2011 11:24:49 am

@Ottoline--That's an oldy but goody joke. I think it was Marx Bros. material. Woody Allen used it in 'Annie Hall' (at the end I think).

Yep, we need the eggs.

Ottoline
12/2/2011 12:03:47 pm

OMG, Tom, I'd forgotten that lovely moment. Here it is, the far better Woody Allen version of "eggs," plus you can hear Annie singing a snip of "Old Times":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-M3Q2zhGd4

mistah charley, ph.d.
12/2/2011 12:49:14 pm

Ottoline writes, "And so it is with our leaders, Charley. They may ALL be tainted to a large or small degree, but we nevertheless have to choose among them. I choose Obama. Who do you choose?"

I don't think we DO choose among them, in any meaningful sense. Nor does it matter, on any issue that is truly important to the MICFiC, who wins any election - the president only pretends to steer.

Yesterday morning, a little after nine a.m., the phone rang. The caller asked for for missus charley. Upon being told she was not available, she was willing to speak to me. She introduced herself as Carmen, and was asking for donations for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. I declined and stated that although I was a registered Democrat, I now considered myself an independent. We had a long (15 minutes, perhaps) and animated discussion, during which I quoted Will Rogers - "America has the best Congress that money can buy." I then went on to tell the very old story of the tourist asking the resident of Maine for directions (this predates GPS, of course) - he's told, "You cahn't get they-ah from hee-yah." I said, similarly, you can't get to a Congress that can't be bought from a Congress that CAN be bought - you need to go somewhere else first.

I was a little surprised that she spent so much time with me. At the end we were able to agree on something - "God Bless America".

And have mercy on our souls, if any, I did NOT add.

I used to think George Carlin exaggerated for humorous effect. Maybe he did, when he was younger, and I was younger. But the late George Carlin was simply describing reality. And he said:

"Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, and city halls. They got the judges in their back pocket. And they own all the big media companies so they control just about all the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls."

Ottoline
12/2/2011 01:01:11 pm

So Charley, do you just not vote?

Tom
12/2/2011 02:03:27 pm

@Ottoline--There's people that really don't like WoodyAllen because of the adopted child marriage. I understand that. There's also people who just never liked him because they thought he looked like the stereotypical 'little f'in Jew'. Those people I don't need to understand. But the people who don't think he's funny I just don't get.

I've been a Woody fan since high school. I knew all his stuff. Sometime around 1973-74 he took his standup act on the road. It was right around when 'Play It Again Sam'mhad finished its run (the movie, not the play). He was booked for two nights at the Valley Forge Music Fair (or whatever) and I went both nights. Never forget it. At the end he enetertained a few questions. He hadn't done the Moose Story so I asked him to. He did. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmnLRVWgnXU

phantomimic link
12/2/2011 09:15:02 pm

Oh I have seen people on both sides of the aisle get worked up about the politicians they most hate and start drawing analogies with the foulest mass murderers that have ever existed. This is not one group, this is a human psychological trait, but I don't know how to explain it. My guess is that it is easier to think this way than to be rational. It is a kind of mental masturbation. It feels good to dump everything in one basket and explain away a complex world with a few far-fetched generalizations.

George Carlin didn't vote link
12/2/2011 09:41:26 pm


“I don't vote. Two reasons. First of all it's meaningless; this country was bought and sold a long time ago. The shit they shovel around every 4 years *pfff* doesn't mean a fucking thing. Secondly, I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into office who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.”

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxIraCchPDhk&ei=2CXaTqTtPIX10gGUr-jrDQ&usg=AFQjCNFyblL3W-9T3q72B29z7IUhY_bOaw

Ottoline
12/3/2011 01:18:09 am

So I guess Carlin does not think his vote at the local level counts, either. I'm not that cynical. This particular comedy clip leaves me cold: passive aggressiveness of this hugely self-righteous kind does not appeal to me as a way of dealing with reality, however adverse it may be.

phantomimic: I agree. A complex world.

Tom: Loved seeing Woody Allen as such a youngster.

mistah charley, ph.d.
12/3/2011 03:08:18 am

ALMOST ALL POLITICIANS SERVE THE ELITE, NOT THE 99%

Ottoline, I agree - the above cited clip is NOT Carlin at his best. However, I believe the argument is still accurate - voting (at the national level, at least) is NOT effective as a way of changing the policies of the MICFiC.

As Ian Welsh points out, "public opinion does not matter. It is irrelevant. A large majority of the population wanted a public option added to the healthcare bill. A small majority wanted single payor. In the fall of 2008, calls to Congress against TARP were running 100:1 to 1200:1 against. There is no public option, there is no single payer, and TARP passed."

"Most countries in the developed world do not have functioning democracies in any meaningful sense. You can vote for party A, B, or C, but they will all do substantially the same things..."

"Politicians are almost entirely in the thrall of a neo-liberal ideology, and are almost entirely the bought and paid servants of the very rich. If a politician does what the oligarchy wants, he or she will be taken care of, even if thrown out of office. If they don’t, money and influence will be used against them, and once out of office they will be on their own."

"Understand, the true rich live in the bubble. They fly on private jets, they travel by helicopter, if they stay in hotels they cost tens of thousands of dollars a night and have private entrances, check-ins, elevators and so on that you as a peon never see or use unless you are part of their direct servant class. Being in the bubble means never having to deal with a human being who isn’t directly financially dependent. These people do not care what you ‘think’, they only care if you can damage their interests."

"Politicians live less in the bubble. You can reach them, and let them know what you think. Loudly and insistently. At their homes. Their restaurants. Their fund raisers. Everywhere they go. ... That’s a cost to them. Until politicians fear you more than they fear the rich and covet the favors and money of the rich, they will continue to serve the rich first."

http://www.ianwelsh.net/

Laura Novak
12/3/2011 04:23:20 am

I have long said that when this next election is up, I am taking myself off the VR roll. Yet I've said that for many years. I recall the thrill of voting for the first time in the general election while in college. I get goosebumps each and every time I do it. Yet I feels Carlin's cynicism in my weary bones (I have a horrible cold and flu right now and hence am having a hard time keeping up with all of you!) But I love the fact that you all provide these great links for us all to enjoy. Tossing our own information into a pot allows the rest of us to dive in and learn something new (or taste something different, should I correctly choose to prolong the weak analogy.) Hopefully we can have fun with the new Woody post.

Ottoline
12/3/2011 04:42:59 am

Agreed: voting (alone) is not enough. Financial support is good (9X% of the time, the better-funded candidate wins). Talking among our pals is also a start.

I'm not clever/wise enough to know the answer, but I know that even in concentration camps, SOME prisoners survived. Bruno Bettelheim, himslf a c camp survivor, wrote that only those who made up their minds to survive their first day, did (although not all of them). Ditto for those who decided to survive the next week, month, year, etc. (Yes I know Bettelheim is controversial, but I still find wisdom in his writing.)

While not equating our situations, we too must remain hopeful about improving our country out of this crisis, one step at a time.

Can anyone say that if Gore had won we would be in this bad a situation? I just don't believe that, although all those dark background forces would have been the same. I bet no war and better response to Katrina, just for starters. And even just that would be huge.

That's why I keep on with this now-seemingly-hopeless task of outing the Palin Hoax: more awareness for the common man, like moi, of how easily and effectively we were fooled. Like the on-going MSM collusion to keep the PalinHoax quiet.

Ottoline
12/3/2011 04:45:49 am

Sorry you are sick, Laura. I wish we could bring you chicken soup!

I wanted to add that I'm grateful for that last unappealing Carlin video. It got me thinking. I'm so glad we don't all agree.

Sherryn
12/3/2011 10:49:08 am

We have three families in our neighborhood who display similar photos of President Obama. While I don't agree with them, I defend their right to do it, but when it's on public property (they often take their signs to the library and hand out propaganda), then they get my full "attention". I don't want my kids exposed to these images.

V ictoria link
12/5/2011 04:15:16 am

The image is disturbing but they have the right to do it.

What I find more disturbing are all the posts at the bottom of almost every news article I read, designed to insult Obama. Because I don't think this is free speech. I believe that people are being paid to write these messages - but can anyone prove it?


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