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I Felt The Earth Move

8/23/2011

 
Our earthquake had a name. Loma Prieta. It rocked our world in October 1989. It literally brought us to our knees and left me homeless. I moved in with my almost fiancé, now husband, that very night.  Here is a photo of a corner building similar to mine:    
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Earthquakes are terrifying ordeals. They offer no warning and don’t roll the way you think. They are very noisy beasts, something you don’t expect. Loud. Way too loud.

There are different kinds of quakes. Some roll, building up slowly. Others snap sharp and short. The Loma Prieta quake started and then refused to stop. It just kept going and going and the pipes and windows all around us just kept exploding and imploding. It was a terrifying and messy affair. Holding hands. we crawled out of the building together.

On the street aftershocks literally knocked us to the ground. Someone ran through the streets screaming that the Bay Bridge had fallen down. A few blocks away, two buildings had pancaked and were split wide open like doll houses. A thin stream of smoke curled up out of one of them. An open gas line would make this the bon fire of the century by evening. A young woman, my age, also engaged, died in the building.

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I moved in with my husband that night. It wasn’t what nice girls from New England do, but I was homeless.

Since my building was “red tagged” as uninhabitable, I wasn’t able to go in and get possessions for a few weeks. At that point, we salvaged what we could and let the bulldozer get the rest. In the meantime, foreign tourists flocked to the Marina District like vultures. We were pushing grocery carts with remnants of belongings through police tape and they were snapping pictures like it was Disneyland.

The east coasters, especially those in the big cities, must have been so frightened by their Tuesday terror. We had experienced warm-ups to our big one: 3’s, 4’s and 5’s through the years to prep us. So when it hit the big time, we were still frightened out of our minds, but at least we knew to get in the door jam because it wasn’t just the Divisidero bus thundering by. They probably had little experience at this and I’m sure everyone’s thoughts went to one thing and one thing only.

In reality, running out of a building isn’t too smart. Remember:  brace yourself in a door jam or crawl under a desk or table. Earthquakes love brick and glass because they fly through the air with the greatest of ease. 

Seems fault lines run all through this great nation of ours. And I’m not talking Dems versus wing nuts.

Earthquakes. Wow, they are so not fun. I am thankful this one wasn't worse. 

FrostyAK
8/23/2011 10:58:54 am

Ours was named Good Friday, 1964. It was a 9+. That came before I got here. I've seen video of it, and even that made my stomach queasy.

My first one hit 9 days after I arrived in AK. There was construction near the house I was staying at, so I thought one of the huge Cats had hit a boulder. I was home alone, and went to the doorway when I realized it wasn't the dozers. That has since been proven to be very dangerous. Best to find something that can't be crushed flat and lie down next to it. I expect next to my truck would be my safe spot.

A few years ago we had one that was a 7+ in Tok, AK (hundreds of miles away), that tore out roads and split the earth wide open. My house shook violently for minutes. We have 4+ frequently, so I wait a few seconds before panicking. I panicked about that one.

It has only been in the past few years that I learned my property sits very close to the Castle Mountain fault, a very shallow, very unstable fault. If it decides to shift position with great force, I don't expect to be around to tell about it.

There are earthquakes happening all over the East Coast, where none were ever recorded before. Mega-corporations are "fracking" for natural gas. One place in Arkansas was experiencing hundreds per day due to fracking. The one in DC and VA was probably set off by the frackers in W Va.

So, it's not God producing these anomalies in preparation for the end time. It is those "people" (according to the SC) that are undermining the very ground we walk on in order to get every last drop of energy out of it. The water tables are beginning to be polluted by fracking as well.

Ivyfree
8/23/2011 11:39:42 am

Gotta love the disaster tourists! At least they didn't ask you to smile for them!

rubbernecking
8/23/2011 11:59:21 am

The first earthquake I experienced was in a Bay Area hotel room. I was sitting on the bed working on a laptop when I realized the bed was moving under me. I didn't think earthquake--I thought an intruder was getting ready to come out from under the bed. (Tip: don't watch crime dramas when travelling for business.) I cannot describe my relief when I realized the wall mirror was shaking too.

I felt the east coast earthquake today. It felt very similar to the small Bay Area quake I experienced but it wasn't strong enough to move anything on the walls.

Laura Novak link
8/23/2011 12:01:35 pm

Ivy, it was amazingly obnoxious. I was trying to be polite here!

And Frosty, my goodness you live an active life. They sound terrifying and yes, I'd hate to think of what the next one could be like.

We keep earthquake food in case stores stay closed for long (or the Repugs win the next election.) But quakes are also so random: your home might be gone, but if the earth is firmer up the road, then a bottle of wine might fall over.

Thanks for sharing that Frosty. Makes us Californians not look so bad.

Laura Novak link
8/23/2011 12:04:38 pm

Rubbernecking: you and I were writing at the same time! I must say I laughed out loud just now. The thought of you (whomever you might be) thinking that someone was about to grab your ankles is actually very funny. Relief that something on the walls was also moving puts it into perspective indeed!

My first time was a 4.3 I had to hold on to the bed to keep from falling out of it. The one I wrote above was an 8 in the Marina because of the liquifaction. Horrible ordeal, yes it was.

Leona
8/23/2011 02:01:25 pm

Laura, I remember that evening very clearly. The uncertainty of possible aftershocks, the fear, the worry about family and friends, it all must seem like it happened yesterday in some respects.

Chefditto
8/23/2011 02:18:22 pm

I have lived in Alaska for over 25 years now. Earthquakes are never anything to laugh at BUT...years ago on a Saturday night...husband was feeling "frisky." A large earthquake hits, and I am screaming, "Oh my God...Oh my God!!" My husband rolls off of me with a nice smug smile on is face thinking he has really "pleased" me that night!!! We still laugh about "The BIG one!"

Ivyfree
8/23/2011 03:12:50 pm

Well, Chefditto, you have to admit the earth moved for you!

LakeLucilleLoon
8/23/2011 03:32:50 pm

During the Denali Fault quake of 2002 we ran outside and saw our cars rolling up and down the driveway, at least 3 feet each way. However, nothing fell off the walls and the there was no other physical indication that there was a quake. I've been through plenty in AK where the hanging plants and ceiling fans sway, but that one moved cars and that was interesting. Having majored in Geology and Earth Science, I just love to experience mother earth rearranging herself.

I did call my parents today who live near DC and they experienced their stove and fridge shaking. They commented that the last time they were in an earthquake was in Alaska in the early 90's during their first visit. They did say that their first instinct during the quake today was not "earthquake" but perhaps something else.

I'm happy that this was no more serious than a little excitement on the East Coast and not seriously damaging.

Marie link
8/23/2011 04:49:22 pm

Laura, FYI... There are comments on IM under the Broomfield article that you might have an interest in...

Phyllis
8/23/2011 06:14:54 pm

I live in Arkansas and we have had small earthquakes over the years. The kind where you see the lamp shade moving or you barely feel it.
In 1977,I think it was,we had one that was centered just outside of Marked Tree on a Sunday. My husband and I and our 2 boys were the first people at church and had unlocked the doors and gone inside to turn on the lights.
We started hearing this noise,a kind of rumbling sound.The first thing I thought was that a train had derailed.
My husband was in the kitchen at the back of the church and about the time I yelled what's that noise he was yelling get out of the building that's a earthquake.
He and one son ran out the back door and my other son and I ran out the front.
We made it outside just as the ground literally shifted in one direction and about 3 minutes later it shifted back in the other direction. There was no shaking at all.
No one else that were in their cars on the way to church felt anything.
Talk about getting the blood pumping,something like that will really do the job.
I've lived in Arkansas all my life and that was the strongest one I ever felt.
Forgot to say that our church was about 9 miles from Marked Tree and they got the shaking and we didn't.

Juneauite
8/23/2011 06:32:43 pm

I was born and raised in Alaska but the Loma Prieta was my first earthquake. I was too young to remember the Good Friday earthquake and I had only experienced some small tremors when I lived in Fairbanks.

In 1989 I was in the Bay Area attending college for my B.A. I remember I was eating dinner in the dining hall of my dorm when it happened. It was an old 100 year old dorm and we had these sturdy old wooden dining tables that we all dove under. I remember the wooden chandeliers that hung in the dining hall swinging back and forth. It shook for about 13 seconds and it wasn't until the end that I started getting scared. We were lucky that the campus wasn't badly damaged and I didn't experience any exploding pipes and windows. I didn't realize the extent of the damage until we turned on the television and saw part of the Bay Bridge collapse and the Nimitz Freeway. A housekeeper who worked in my dorm lived in West Oakland not too far from the Freeway collapse. That must have been horrible.

I remember many students at the time downplaying the earthquake, saying it wasn't like x earthquake in x country that killed 50,000 people so you don't have the right to be frightened. But what you went through Laura was truly terrifying. I appreciate you sharing your experience with us.

V ictoria link
8/23/2011 07:00:57 pm

I had just left my office in San Jose and was sitting in my car at a stoplight when I saw the earth ripple towards me. It was a wave in the pavement, and the streetlights shook back and forth like they were made out of rubber. I remember seeing the streetlights whip back and forth like they were made out of rubber.

When it was over, I remember wanting to get out and bond with all the other drivers - but the light turned green, and everyone (evidently less needy than I) simply drove on, so I did too. I tried to find a radio station but for the moment they were all knocked out.

I still sometimes start to panic if I get stuck on a bridge, in a tunnel or beneath an underpass.

Bob
8/23/2011 07:34:59 pm

i survived the great east coast earthquake yesterday!!! in Boston, where it was extremely minor, on the 7th floor of a building in the Back Bay. None of my group had ever experienced an earthquake and we had no idea what was happening to us.

I know those of you who have really experienced earthquakes think our reaction to it is amusing--the way that we feel when a southern city like Atlanta gets an inch of snow.

But i found this little taste of earthquake very unsettling. I don't ever want to experience it again. The stories here ground me in some reality about what other people in earthquake-prone zones have had to experience. I think i would be anxious and have nightmares all the time.

DebinOH
8/23/2011 10:01:23 pm

We've had several earthquakes in NE Ohio but this one was different. Previous earthquakes here just sounded like a huge truck ran into your building & it was over that fast.

Today it was more like rolling waves. I thought I had a severe case of vertigo which was just really weird. The other girl in my office had the same reaction. It was so reassuring to hear that other people thought they had vertigo too;) We thought we were nuts.

I don't think I could live somewhere where these happened all the time. Glad to hear that no one was injured and that it wasn't stronger.

Bonsai-Jay
8/23/2011 10:56:05 pm

While living in So. Cal. (San Diego) and later in
Anchorage AK, I kept a small windchime hung in the corner of my bedroom and livingroom away from the air conditioning vents. If you heard the chime...you duck and cover.

Be safe people.

NSG
8/23/2011 11:05:51 pm

@Bob, I really agree with you about how unsettling an earthquake can be!

I've never lived in a true quake zone, and the only time I've ever felt one was when I was living in NYC in '85 and was awakened by a minor one on an early Saturday morning. It felt like a big truck rumbling down the street, except that it felt far more ... fundamental.

Also, I was working on the advertising account for Mexico Tourism at the time, which was just a few weeks after their major 8.1 quake on 9/19/85. That had been a big news story in general, and had hit our team hard because our colleagues were so close to it, and the country was badly affected. Well, on the Saturday morning of the little NYC quake, our Mexican clients were in NYC, and they were my second thought. Poor folks couldn't get away from it! (I looked it up & found it. 10/19/85, a 4.0.)

I guess my reaction is that I'm more comfortable with winds and storms and other natural phenomena blowing above ground. Terra firma rumbling beneath my feet doesn't sit well with me.

B
8/23/2011 11:27:19 pm

@Marie. You refer to comments like this (I know better than post this at Joe's!) suggesting Bristol gave birth to Trig and another child, perhaps DWTS baby:

By the way...it's been nearly a hundred days since you or your mother has clapped eyes on Trig. I hope the guilt of what you allowed her to do to that child eats away at you. I hear Trig open-handed smacked your mother when she tried to get a photo with him in May. And you just gave him to her. Knowing how bad she would treat him.

The only saving grace for me is that I know my contempt for you is out measured only by your contempt for yourself. Twenty years old, "engaged" twice, pregnant four times, a mother thrice over and a miscarriage. How ARE you going to unveil your youngest? You can't keep him hidden in that LA condo forever. Sooner or later Tripp is going to say "my brother" to the wrong person.

dmoreno
8/23/2011 11:32:00 pm

I was 7 months pregos in October 89, in San Diego, and watching the World Series/Oprah on the TV when I felt the horrible earth quake in Loma Prieta. During my 30 years in CA I have had my share of experiences with the shifting earth. As luck would have it, I currently live only 40 mins south of Mineral VA where yesterday's earth quake originated. I must say it was the most memorable experience of them all. My house is only three years old and as I vibrated, stunned, I prayed the house would not fall down. Just as I thought it was over, it got worse. Luckily, only my red teapot on the stove jumped off the rack and a few pictures needed adjusting. It was terrifying though and I don't want to go through it again.

B
8/23/2011 11:36:13 pm

Back on topic, I was shocked last night when Rachel informed me that the North Anna nuclear power plant sits at the quake's epicenter. It was shut down after the quake, but the cooling process was on backup generators because the power went out. Now this isn't Japan, not the same kind of reactors or backup generators under water, but still . . . wasn't this bigger news than people leaving office buildings in Boston, or even crumbling plaster at the Capitol Bldg?

Rachel also told us about a report last year warning of dangers to plants of a 6.0 earthquake on the East Coast. I guess since it was only 5.8, most of the media thought it wasn't news. No surprise that Palin's hoax, and the Repubs putting a lunatic close to the VP office, isn't considered news either.

mistah charley, ph.d.
8/24/2011 12:14:25 am

Here in the DC metro area, at first I thought the earthquake was a loud truck or similar in the street - but it kept getting louder, with more and more shaking. And louder. And MORE shaking.

Afterwards I wondered if there had been a VERY LARGE explosion in Washington, but soon learned it was only an earthquake. Only an earthquake.

lilly lily
8/24/2011 12:17:31 am

There have been numerous quakes in Virginia. The last in 2003.

I was asleep in a quake in Bern Switzerland, but my husband was awake and we got out of the high rise where we were living to find everyone in the streets. People who had cars and relations elsewhere evacuated. We looked at the base of the high rise, and the earth had shifted away from the building when it swayed. The papers headlines "The Earth Burped."

I live on a fault line and when we get a minor one the bang can be heard 50 miles away. I did have my underground water main go, ($4000) but I'm not sure it was the quake. Still not paying 300 as the plumbers screwed up the drainage in the lawn, and I have a swamp where before it drained down to a stream the entire time I lived here. If the packed fill that they tamped down too hard for drainage starts to drain I send them the check. They will have to wait.

I can well imagine all the monetary damages that hasn't been insured. You can get earthquake insurance according to my son who lives near a major fault. Must be pricey.

There is a major fault that runs across the Hudson across NYC and if that one goes it is billions. Maybe trillions of damages.

Major misconception that the east coast is free of earthquakes or fault lines. They don't compare with California or Washington State or Alaska, but we have quakes and often. Small ones usually, pictures askew or down, dishes rattling, a few cracks here and there, but nothing to lose sleep over.

People going to the end of the world scenarios again. The religious frauds are going to rake in dollars from frightened nuts who can't understand the simple fact that the earth is unstable, that we live on a planet always changing. That the sun will not be with us forever.

Sarah Palin and her ilk will capitalize on them.

jeff
8/24/2011 12:35:16 am


O/T but worth a read:

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/mama-grizzly-sarah-palin-may-be-taking-her-nickname-too-seriously

Alaska writer tells how Palin's fellow Alaskans view her and her knee-jerk antics.

mistah charley, ph.d.
8/24/2011 01:15:56 am

lilly lily writes "the sun will not be with us forever."

Two guys I knew back in the day went to a lecture by Carl Sagan, "The natural history of the solar system." As they were leaving, one was visibly upset, and the other asked him if something was wrong. The first guy said, "Did he say the sun would burn out in five million years?" "No, he said 'five BILLION years.'" "Oh - what a relief!"

daisydem
8/24/2011 01:16:37 am

Wow, reading here this morning in interesting. Some of you (Laura, especially you) have been through some harrowing quakes. I am too far south to have experienced yesterday's quake, but I love the East Coast and have family and friends scattered there, so I was concerned. But even more than concerned, I was kind of excitedly curious - I mean we don't have quakes - not ones that big. To me it was a huge issue. I am glad that no lives were lost and I don't know about property; I sill have not gotten all the news reports. I know that the very same states affected (or most of the ones on the coast) are going to have to brace for Hurricane Irene this weekend, so wow ... they are having exciting times.

Thanks to all of you for sharing your stories!

lilly lily
8/24/2011 01:45:48 am

I am more concerned when there is an outbreak of a killer type new strain of flu than over the earthquakes. Though Japans earquake and tsunami was certainly sobering and had immense reprocussions and damages.

People on the west coast naturally were very concerned, as much by the nuclear power plant meltdown as anything. I sent kelp tablets to one of my sons on the west coast.

It is always something. And some always overeact and cry doom.

Asia seems to bear the brunt of the new viral strains. So far we have been lucky about the avian and then the swine flu outbreaks. The Avian flu was checked, the Swine flu petered out.

Almost time for new flu vaccines to come out.

It seems to bring out the worst case scenario types who love to prepare. Right now it is underground shelters yet once again. What for? I don't know.

I know I did have a lot of concern about the Avian flu when it was running rampant.

I've lived long enough to not really worry myself too much, LOL, except the fundi's getting the presidency here in the states.

The GOP is truly scary.

Laura Novak link
8/24/2011 01:57:30 am

I echo what Daisydem said, Thank you to all of you for sharing your stories. For so long after Loma Prieta, party conversation was always about "where were you" when it happened. Everyone has a story.

Can't compare to ChefDitto's story. Oh my god is right! And Bob, I empathize with you how scary that must have been yesterday. The one thing about San Francisco is that you know the buildings are on rollers and are built to sway. I've often wondered what other cities would do in such a situation.

Bonsai Jay, they say that the animals sense it first. But apparently my husband felt our 2.6 last night and my son and I, and the two cats, slept right through it.

Juneauite and Victoria, it's interesting to hear your Bay Area stories about that time. And Rubbernecking as well. It was the pediatric surgeon from my son's group who amputated the person's leg in order to extricate them from their car that was crushed in the Nimitz. How many times did we drive that cramped, layered freeway?

Bonsai Jay: I'll try to remember the wind chimes. Clearly, the cats aren't too swift in our house!

Thank you everyone. The best part about blogging is meeting all of you and getting to know a little bit about your lives. Thank you!

lilly lily
8/24/2011 02:35:23 am

Laura. Go over to the comments on Gryphens new posting about the Menard trashing of the hotel room in Sitka.

It has an anon telling all about Trig.

Born Feb 14th. He hit Sarah with his open hand and she called him a little shit. She has ignored all medical advice about his need for glasses, and his eyes have worsened. A lot there, and well worth reading.

I think we have someone who is truly fed up with what has happened. She is telling all, and the Palins know who she is, but she doesn't care though she hasn't said who she or he, and I think it is a she.

She also claims Todd wanted to care for him because he truly loves him, and she refused to allow him because she is all out vindictive. She is paying $7500 for his monthly care. (Sister?) A princely sum and Sarah Palin is a cheapskate.

A must read for anyone who is interested in Trig and Babygate.

Please read. True? I don't know. But it rings true.

Laura Novak link
8/24/2011 02:48:50 am

Thanks, Lilly. I did see that thanks to another commenter here.

So, what to make of it? What do we collectively think about it? Any ideas?

lilly lily
8/24/2011 02:55:21 am

It rings true.

Bristol is truly out of control about Mercede. Their rivalry is toxic.

Perhaps Mercede is willing to open the sluice gates.

Perhaps Sarah has finally reached the end of her hoax and her enablers are opening up and it is about to blow up in her face.

Sooner or later it has to blow up and the truth will be exposed to the light of day, and will get noticed by the enabling media.

Sarah Palin is going to the Baloon festival on September 3rd because you get crowds there, the one at the tractor venue seems to have been a obvious bust.

B
8/24/2011 02:58:36 am

@Lilly Lily.
Born BY Feb. 14, I think it says.

lilly lily
8/24/2011 03:46:16 am

Yes, thank you for the correction. I typed it up to quickly, a bad habit of mine and didn't proof read, another bad habit. That is what editors are for. LOL.

I was changing venues and wanted to get the anons points out to Laura between one computer and another.

I think Palingates is onto it.

Quess we have to wait and see what anon brings up. She or he was leaking things here and there, but these points are more concrete and seem factual. Even with no proofs you would think someone would try checking these out.

Perhaps it is connected to Bristols facebook postings questions and answers which I haven't checked out.

An example,if true, stunningly childish. Showing Tripp Mercedes pictures for Tripps disdain as a game?

Brain washing? And a child, being taught to hate the mothers nemesis? If she keeps it up Mercede is bound to retaliate. She always does.

Molly
8/24/2011 04:08:15 am

If Mercede believes that Bristol is showing Tripp her photo as reported then she could very well blow this whole thing out of the water!

Banyan
8/24/2011 04:32:24 am

If the implications are, indeed, true, Bristol may be the mother of a baby (Ruffles?) born in Feb.

If Bristol actually conceived and gave birth to a relatively healthy DS Baby -- thus delivering her mother the *Perfect Campaign Prop* -- at a highly convenient moment, I would be greatly surprised.

I would think, instead, that Bristol had a baby very prematurely with a birth defect (the ear + more?). This baby was stashed away somewhere(after the shower pics) and a more marketable "Trig" was ordered up.

What is all this mention of "Lauden" in these posts about I wonder?

Ivyfree
8/24/2011 04:34:54 am

"A must read for anyone who is interested in Trig and Babygate"

Dang! And I'm stuck at work and can't get to IM!

B
8/24/2011 05:03:30 am

@Banyan. Lauden is Sarah's niece, Heather's daughter, similar age to Bristol.

lilly lily
8/24/2011 05:08:27 am

It is a repeat from what was printed in an earlier thread about the anti Palin film. I missed the comments on that one.

The computers I use (over 50) don't like IM. They continually stall and refuse to show anything, and I start from scratch and then say Oh the heck with this, much as with Disqus. Too frustrating to waste time on.

Life is short and time is fleeting.

But getting Palin exposed is well worth waiting for.

Someone out there sounds awfully knowing about what is going down with Trig, and they don't like it one bit.

Trigs White Knight. Physically Trig is cared for, but certainly deserves to have his eyes properly cared for. Seems like such a loving and personable boy with Piper, Tripp and Todd. He was used, now he should be given the best medical treatments that money can buy.

I have to batten down the hatches for the hurricane Irene. It seems we will be hit if the weather analysts are correct about its pathway.

But I certainly will be curious as to the anons future postings and wait and see.

dmoreno
8/24/2011 05:11:49 am

Just as easy as the anon posts are to believe because the actions taken by each of the characters seems to fit the behavior they display publicly, it is also as easy for some very clever person wanting to stir the pot to make it all up. I sure wish we knew for sure. I could see each and every one of them behaving that way--would not be surprised even for a nano-second. If this is true, the inside person must be having a blast driving the paylins crazy and a VERY good actor. Hope their courage continues to grow if for no other reason than to expose the potential neglect of those little kids.

lilly lily
8/24/2011 05:20:25 am

Perhaps Bristol could be "evil" as Mercede says. I thought that a bit of exaggeration.

It isn't cute to show photo's to a child and teach them to grimace and wrinkle their noses. It isn't a game you play with childrens emotional responses.

Bristols blanket lies, or the snide remarks in her book depicting her former lover is one thing. She is rewriting her life in her own mind as well as the publics. People do that after failed relationships. Levi is an adult and can take care of himself.

Tripp is vulnerable.

Viola-Alex
8/24/2011 06:17:15 am

Whoa, Nelly!

How about this one in that flickr stash:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66657044@N04/6068241706/in/set-72157627488121662

Laura Novak link
8/24/2011 06:24:30 am

Agree, V-A. I was wondering about that myself. Not to mention: what kind of way is that to hold a baby!!!

Viola-Alex
8/24/2011 06:47:11 am

Learned it from the Master? I mean, isn't that a pretty formal-looking photo to be of someone else's baby?

Molly
8/24/2011 06:54:53 am

I see you've seen the latest photo. If I was conspiratorially minded, I might think that all these photos popping up lately to be a warning to the former gov!

B
8/24/2011 07:37:38 am

@lilly. I had IM troubles till I switched from Internet Explorer to Chrome.

Viola-Alex
8/24/2011 07:54:29 am

What's intriguing is that the tone of this new collection seems so "Happy Family." All smiley and huggy. Lots of new family photos which actually make them look a bit more normal. There are one of two that give pause, like Bristol showing post-partum fat with that "Baby Girl." Of course, that's no smoking gun. Just another embarrassment. Maybe Baby Girl is the hook for the Reality Series. "Whoopsie! Look what the cat drug in! Where'd this little cutie pie come from! Haiti? Well,nevermind, isn't she adorable?"

I guess if it were Rovian, it would LOOK all warm and fuzzy but hold some unexpected zingers?

mxm
8/24/2011 07:56:36 am

The dialog seems to still be active and it continues in the IM Broomfield post comments. Laura, you are being discussed in the comments. I sense this is real information from someone very close to the action.

nana
8/24/2011 08:08:30 am

Lilly...I was going to say the same thing...I was constantly frustrated with IM on Internet Explorer...downloaded Google Chrome and it works great.

Laura...I am not sure what to make of all those posts...the person seems very sure of their facts and also not afraid of retaliation. My heart aches for Trigg if what she says about his care is true. And...what a bitch Bristol is if she is making Tripp dislike Mercedes. She is obviously jealous of how beautiful Mercedes is without all the liposuction/fake chins. No one will ever pay Bristol to pose for nude photos!

lilly lily
8/24/2011 08:36:03 am

IM is also frustrating with Mozilla FireFox..

I will only waste so much time, though Gryphen seems to get the anons who post illuminating items at times, so I miss a lot.

I figure I'll pick it up sooner or later. I'm not THAT gung ho about Sarah.

At the supermarket one of the rags at the clerks checkout counter is dragging La Palin through the muck. Mercedes accusations, plus a older photo of Mercede as a platinum blonde. (the girl looks best as a brunette with highlights.)

Also the cocaine snorting accusation at the Mugs saloon.

It seems they want to get rid of her, bit by bit.

As someone said at Palingates, she needs a good resounding trouncing, where she can't return to say she is a valid option to anything in national politics.

Everything Palin touches turns to manure.

Perry is on a roll right now, and is taking her place with her backers.

But one thing about her seems to be she won't see anything realistic about herself if it hit her right in the eye.

Completly deluded about her own powers. So many yes men and women around her that she can turn a blind eye to reality. The gravy train has derailed, and more and more people know Sarah Palin has very little in the way of brains between her ears.

Manipulitive and cunning yes. Self destructive even more so.

Banyan
8/24/2011 09:15:37 am

@ B

Thanks for identifying Lauden for me. Don't know how I missed it.

I suspect everyone has now seen the picture of Bristol holding a little girl who looks a lot like a slightly older version of "Ruffles." She looks a lot like a very impaired preemie around age 1 year...give or take a few months. The link to the picture is over on IM, sent in by a commenter. I wonder if it is the "rill dill."

Bonnie.A.Savage@gmail.com
8/24/2011 09:19:58 am

Could that baby girl Ari be two years old? Could she be Ruffles? Probably just a friend's baby.


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