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March 26, 2008 -- UPDATE! UPDATE #2 by Doc!

8/1/2011

214 Comments

 
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Three weeks before Sarah Palin reportedly gave birth to her fifth child, a six pound boy, Juneau photographer Brian Wallace captured a series of photos of Mr. and Mrs. Todd Palin exiting the Alaska State Museum. Nota bene: Palin is said to be eight months pregnant here - 3 weeks shy of giving birth.



Curiously, this is the caption accompanying the photo on Polaris Images:

March 26, 2008, Juneau, Alaska, USA: In April 2011, Professor Bradford Scharlott at Northern Kentucky University wrote an academic paper stating that the "conspiracy theory" suggesting Palin is not Trig's mother is likely true and the American media is pathetic for not pursuing the story more aggressively. Scharlott walks through all of the evidence supporting the theory in the article, suggesting Trig is actually Palin's grandson. The article discusses photos of Palin in what is said to have been a late-stage pregnancy, the leisurely 20-hour trip home that Palin took after she supposedly went into labor in Texas, the refusal of the hospital where Trig was supposedly born to even confirm that he was born there (let alone who was the mother), strange statements from Palin's doctor and the McCain campaign, and so on.///Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin exits the Alaska State Museum with her husband Todd after a bill signing ceremony. Palin announced 3-weeks prior that she was 7-months pregnant with her fifth child.. Credit: Brian Walllace / Polaris

What has followed is what I call a Gryphen/Novak production.  For the past 24 hours, it's been a rigorous effort to procure the rights to publish this series of photos that a commenter linked to on Immoral Minority yesterday. H/T commenter!

From Eastern Europe, to Alaska, to New York City, I've chased down the licensing for the photos (Copyright: Polaris Images) in order to protect the photographer's rights and do things the proper way. As the author of a new novel, I appreciate Brian Wallace wanting to be paid for his work.

I could only afford one of the photos. Gryphen will provide you with all of them. Together we felt that these photos were critical to review and discuss in all their high resolution glory.

My rights to this photo on the front of my blog extend for one week. After that, it will sit in my archives for a year.

Let's make this an open thread. For now, my feeling is this:  here is the first time we've seen this image of the then governor with the "grey coat" swinging wide open.  My husband said of the photo: "She looks like a 44-year old woman who has had four children. Period."  It's astounding to me that anyone who looked like this one day, could actually give birth 3 weeks later to a normal sized baby. 

But then again, you might argue...

You asked, Brad Scharlott delivers!  Here is the same photo lightened:

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And here is a little "miracle grow" for you. Exactly 2.5 weeks later.  Thanks so much Brad for your fine photography work!

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Polaris Images can be found HERE for more photos. 

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UPDATE #2:  Meantime, our resident neonatologist, Doc, has weighed in on this latest. Here's what he has to say:

"These new pictures definitely strengthen the case that Sarah Palin was not pregnant in 2008. There is no way that her belly is that flat 4 weeks prior to delivery, even if she was only 32 weeks pregnant at the time. Several people have commented, however, that her belly does look a little full and that she may be wearing a bandage or some kind of abdominal sling and I agree.

At first I had a thought that maybe she was pregnant with Tripp, but when I run the dates, that's very unlikely. With Tripp born on Dec 29, 2008, the date of conception is most likely in early to mid-April. Perhaps she had some kind of abdominal procedure. One idea I had, and it's a long shot, is that she had a trans-abdominal egg retrieval. Generally the procedure is done trans-vaginally, but when that's not possible they can do it through the abdomen. Once harvested and fertilized, they generally transfer the embryos 3-5 days later but can always freeze them and transfer them later.

Why would she do something like this? It actually makes sense. This is the time for Bristol to get "pregnant" to ensure that she wouldn't be suspected of being Trig's mother, since Trig wouldn't be born for 4 more weeks. As to who fertilized the eggs or who carried the pregnancy, that is fodder for the conspiracy theorists."

Thank you, Doc. I appreciate you taking the time to check in. 

214 Comments
mxm
8/1/2011 06:07:40 am

Laura,

Thank you for your diligence and integrity in procuring this photo. And I thank the photographer for publishing the photo online, and for the sleuth commenter for finding said photo and alerting Gryphen and others. Kudos all around. It is evidence of a hoax, crystal clear evidence.

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lilly lily
8/1/2011 06:13:08 am

THIS IS IT!!!!!

The missing link. LOL.

I love the Key to my Heart Necklace. More like the Key to the Hoax.

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jeff link
8/1/2011 06:17:52 am

Way to go, Laura. Final nail in the coffin! She looks like she is wearing a cummerbund.

Where's the baby bump, Sarah?

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Phyllis
8/1/2011 06:26:43 am

Audrey of Palin,s Deceptions was 100% correct when she said the museum picture she put up at her blog was the Nail in Sarah Palin's coffin.

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jeff
8/1/2011 06:26:44 am

It's been said before, but I will say it again...

Does this woman OWN an iron?

Todd, get off your ass and iron her clothes. Sarah never fails to look like a slob. Sarah, hon', if you can't iron, take your stuff to the dry cleaners.

It shocks me to think that this is the idiot who actually has some rill Muricans believing that she could govern the U.S. He'll, she can't even manage her wardrobe and I bet her closet looks like a cluster-fuck. Pitiful!

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eclecticsandra link
8/1/2011 06:31:47 am

The horizontal folds are interesting. I'd like to see that duplicated on a pregnant belly. Is this the key that is part of Jewish tradition. She also seems to have on her Isreali/US flag pin. How strange to wear these to the signing on a bill for Native Alaskans when she has so much native jewelry.

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[email protected]
8/1/2011 06:32:55 am

Well done Laura. I nearly died of shock when I saw the hi-resolution photo sitting there. Where's the bump? I agree with Jeff, she looks as if she is wearing some sort of a cummerband.

(I won't mention anything about the wrinkled trousers).

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Anonymous
8/1/2011 06:47:37 am

I was intrigued at first by the thought that she could go to such lengths to fake a pregnancy. When I look at this photo, and others like it, I see a woman who is pregnant, but who is going to great lengths to keep her pregnancy a secret. Can't remember the timeline, is this before or after she spilled the news to coworkers? What is much more concerning to me than whether or not she faked the pregnancy is how little concern she shows for her unborn child. I'd think trying to tighten up your abdominals while you're that far along in a pregnancy could not be healthy for the baby. No room to move or grow. That speaks volumes about her character to me.

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Leona
8/1/2011 06:49:12 am

Great job, Laura. Now we know what Sarah's "tight abs" really look like, without the ubiquitous scarf.
p.s. Jeff, you're absolutely right. With all of her minions around her, you'd think one of them could do a little ironing now and then.

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mary
8/1/2011 06:56:02 am

to Anon 13:47, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a belly like Sarah Palin has in this photo at the stage of pregnancy that she claimed to be. IMPOSSIBLE. Please do a little google search for extremely fit women who are pregnant. They tend to show earlier and their "tight abs" do not keep their bellies from looking like they have basketballs in them. If anything, I'd give you that, in this photo, Sarah Palin looks like she gave birth a few weeks previously or was in the early weeks of a 5th pregnancy. There is no way that she could have dieted or exercised in order to hide a pregnancy.

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rubbernecking
8/1/2011 06:57:44 am

Good stuff. It's great to have additional photos for the AK museum event.

If there's a way to help contribute to research costs, please let us know.

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JJ
8/1/2011 06:59:02 am

I see that Blade's latest blog post says "Now for the announcement. Awhile back I received some reports from a medical professional regarding treatment Sarah Palin received during her pregnancy." She will explain in an upcoming post.

I wonder if this "treatment" is liposuction, and the "cummerbund" Palin appears to be wearing are recycled bandages from tummy lipo?

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V ictoria link
8/1/2011 07:02:08 am

Fabulous!! Put this next to the Gusty photo from two weeks later and you have an impossible story.

Thanks so much, Laura! And to everyone else who has worked hard on this.

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ManxMamma link
8/1/2011 07:04:48 am

Thanks for all of your efforts Laura. It is much appreciated.

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Molly
8/1/2011 07:05:10 am

Oh my, I wonder if the Palins had some sort of refrigerator throwing incident before they went to the museum. If you look closely Todds trousers looks as if it has a rip in the knee and Sarah's pants look as if they have a rip down her RHS just above the knee. Am I seeing things?

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comeonpeople
8/1/2011 07:05:32 am

It looks like some kitchen towels folded and then ace or saran wrapped around her midsection. Pretty low rent as far as fake bellies go. Then the Gusty belly follows in just a few weeks? Riiiiight.
Nice of Toad to get the door for his pregnant wife.

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comeonpeople
8/1/2011 07:11:23 am

Just realized the wrinkling pants may be from tight pany hose used to hold the whole belly contraption in place. Static electricy build up from a low humidity cold March day.
Thinking back on my pregnancies, I never wore hose or tights although as a nurse on my feet all day my legs would have loved them. Ii'd wear tight knee length socks sometimes, but couldn't bear to have something constrictive around my real baby bump. (I guess there is maternity hose?, but never investigated)

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cheeriogirl
8/1/2011 07:11:29 am

Thanks for the pic Laura- the Quitter Ex-Governor is toast with this picture out there.

I wonder who released it? Was it the McCain family, in retaliation for Bristol so publicly trashing them recently? A delicious thought, if only a guess.

Somehow, I feel certain there's more to come!

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hockeynana
8/1/2011 07:12:03 am

How can anyone look at this picture and think she is pregnant? It is so obviously a pillow or some such thing strapped to her belly.
I have to agree with the post about how she never,ever, looks like she has the slightest idea how to maintain a working wardrobe.
And...as always...holding the darned crackberry...doesn't she ever put it in a pocket? Only one...now she carries two at all times. I have seen pictures of her rudely reading and typing on them when she should be paying attention to those around her. I remember the ones where she is sitting at a table holding Trig like a sack of potatoes and texting away. Also read that she texted throughout that funeral (where she took her young daughter and they were both very inappropriately dressed).

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Trisha
8/1/2011 07:19:51 am

NOT preggers. No way.

Howver, she is quite the slob. Hate to be gross but I am sure that woman smells bad. She always looks like a slob so I doubt she wears clean clothes or showers
Daily. Ewww.

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Pam
8/1/2011 07:20:01 am

Thanks again, I have sent G a little bonus, and if I could help you in any way I will oblige. Someday this will all make sense, in the no-nonsensical way that mentally healthy people can comprehend. This is one sick family, and one sick GOP for even thinking they could get away with this HOAX... Don't let it go, the fat lady is warming up to sing!!

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jeff
8/1/2011 07:20:09 am

@anon 13:47,

This was 3 weeks AFTER Sarah had announced her pregnancy on March 5, 2008. There sure as hell was no reason to conceal it here. It just ain't there!' Anyway, It wouldve been impossible to conceal a 7-1/2 month old fetus by wrapping it tightly with something like an ace bandage. Have you ever felt a bab bump? It's not like a pillow or cotton candy. It's actually pretty firm. That's why the Elan video of Sarah thumping and patting on her belly was such a joke. The flesh is not squishy at all. I should turn the floor over to experienced moms here. Look at the Gusty photo 18 days later. That does not happen in 18 days. No way. Case closed.

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emrysa
8/1/2011 07:23:50 am

thank you Laura and Gryphen!!!!

lol @ V ictoria - before I even read laura's post, I opened up the gusty pic in photoshop so I could view these two side by side. you are most certainly correct - these two together are an impossible story. there is absolutely NO WAY ON THIS PLANET that she grew that much in 18 days!

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Bill
8/1/2011 07:24:46 am

thanks Laura, she's toast.

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KatieAnnieOakley
8/1/2011 07:36:08 am

Lots of room to stuff those pants full of pregnancy padding, eh?

Looks like her lower left pants leg is clinging to the MATERNITY HOSE!

The photo inside the museum (with the little girl) lightened shows a square 4 X 4 pad on her mid-section - maybe the liposuction access site with compression bandages all around her abdomen?

One thing is for damn sure - there is no baby with a birth weight of 6 pounds 2 ounces being carried in there! This woman supposedly gave birth 23 days later? Riiiiiiight!

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Suzanne
8/1/2011 07:36:15 am

Excellent work, Ms. Novak

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Ron
8/1/2011 07:48:21 am

Thanks to you and Gryphen for getting the photos. No way was she pregnant. But how to get the MSM to care?

I do think the wrinkly pants are due to static electricity.

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daisydem
8/1/2011 07:49:35 am

JJ : that is an interesting theory: that the cummerbund is bandages from tummy lipo. How does this time frame fit in with Shailey Tripp's statement that she once gave Sarah a massage, but had to be aware of her sensitive tummy area?

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daisydem
8/1/2011 07:51:43 am

I was also going to say that sometimes in these pictures with the flat pillow looking belly, it looks as though whatever it is either rides up or slips a bit. As I imagine putting something like that under a tight fitting sweater/turtle neck would.

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Laura Novak link
8/1/2011 07:52:13 am

Thanks, Suzanne, but it's really excellent work on the part of SO many people these past three years.

Bill, so well put! Toast. Succinct. I like that.

Comeonepeople: LOL. In the fury of the past 24 hours, I forgot to notice that Todd wasn't holding the door. Her purse maybe?

And Pam and Rubbernecking: Thank you for your kind offer. I don't have anything like a PayPal account; not anticipating anything in return for this blog.

But if you'd like to support me by buying my novel - I hear it's a great fun read - that would help me more than you know. It's only $4.99. And people buying your book goes a long way for a new author!

(purple letters above or here:)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/60196371/Finding-Clarity-A-Mom-A-Dwarf-A-Posh-Private-School-in-the-People-s-Republic-of-Berkeley


Thanks everyone! Now, I've got to do something about my abs. They are a mess.

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lilly lily
8/1/2011 07:53:08 am

I wonder why the photographer sat on these photographs and who found them. Perhaps he didn't realize their import?

Will Sarah PAC be buying the rights?

LOL. The cat IS out of the bag, it might be too late to delete these as well as thousands that were deleted and obliterated by the McCain team??? Or Sarahs hacks?

I don't read all the comments everywhere I skim, so I must miss a lot.

I also missed that she had liposuction DURING A PREGNANCY? How bizarre is that?

Heck, women with fluid retention gain more weight than this woman during a supposedly easy and normal pregnancy.

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Viola-Alex
8/1/2011 07:59:03 am

Ms Novak, I think I love you. (What about the photographer who posted these photos? Any story from him? Why now? Why the reference to Brad?)

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KatieAnnieOakley
8/1/2011 08:02:26 am

Earlier that day in the museum, Palin posed for a photo with a little girl. In that previously referred to "Nail in the coffin" photo, you can see a surgical pad, a 4 X 4, through the stretchy shirt fabric. I lightened the photo (using Picnik.com/app), then using Windows Paint (yes, paint!) made an outline to compare.

My opinion? She's had recent liposuction - the 4 X 4 covers the access site, and she's wearing compression bandages / an abdominal band on her belly.

Your opinion?

http://i.imgur.com/D24NG.jpg

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lilly lily
8/1/2011 08:03:52 am

Perhaps Andrew Sullivan might be clued in on these photos.

He has contacts who could well afford the rights to the entire series if money is the issue.

Best let him know.

I doubt he has time to keep up with all the blogs, with all the world as his beat.

I don't know how many assistants he has.

This should definatly be brought to his attention.

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_wink__
8/1/2011 08:06:42 am

Laura, If you could do a side-by-side with the Gusty picture it would really emphasize how ridiculous her hoax was.

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lilly lily
8/1/2011 08:07:36 am

Didn't Murdoch arrange to buy the Israeli mans tape of his interview with Sarah Palin.

Don't know if Murdoch is still covering for his puppet.

He has enough troubles of his own now.

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anonfornow
8/1/2011 08:19:09 am

Bless you, Laura, for chasing this down.

Can you tell us, please, were these photos posted by the photographer or someone else? Has he been sitting on them the last three and a half years, or have they always been available and someone else only just put up the post with the Babygate comment?

We've become so accustomed to the anorexic post-Convention Sarah that it's easy to forget that she was a bit plump in 2006-2008 I mean before she was pretending to be preggers). And, oh my, all the work she's had done on her face! Funny, I think she is now more classically beautiful, but there is a fresh attractiveness to the pre-2009 Sarah that is so lacking in the woman we see today. She looks a good ten-fifteen years older. Photogenic, but older.

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lilly lily
8/1/2011 08:24:14 am

Actually men don't want to know most of the time anything about pregnancy unless they are the father of the child or a gynocologist.

Perhaps the photographer simply didn't see it as a nail in the coffin photo? A bit like the missing link in anthropology.

We have these little areas of squeamishness about sex and pro- creation, though the younger generation seem oblivious.

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emrysa
8/1/2011 08:33:03 am

okay, let's look at this lipo thing.

if she had bandages from lipo, it would mean that she had it recently.

would she really have had lipo AFTER she announced to the world that she was 7 months pregnant? think about it. honestly it makes no sense that she would have had lipo during this time.

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Conscious at last!
8/1/2011 08:36:02 am

Oh happy day!! You guys are WONDERFUL.

Now for the coup de grace-- how about a side by side-- the above photo next to the Gusty interview photo:
In less than three weeks....My, my Sarah, how you've grown! Yes dear, I'd love to see your stretch marks. : )))

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1smartcanerican
8/1/2011 08:41:10 am

Ok, supported through purchasing your book. Congrats on being a published author! I've always thought I wanted to write a book but never have a plot in mind that would work out, so I am impressed.

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Melly
8/1/2011 08:55:08 am

For my back pain I use a spandex kind of cummerbund with a sleeve for an ice pack. The ends attach with velcro. If you put the sleeve in front instead to the back, it would look like what's under Sarah's top. My specific one doesn't have a square of any kind...it just says Walgreen's!

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jeff
8/1/2011 08:56:54 am


Hmmm...the ol' static electricity excuse. That one never worked for me.

Or, maybe she just didn't shave her legs for a few days and her "prickliness" snags on her pants leg.

Either way, I'll give her a pass on her "clingy britches", but not for the wardrobe malfunction that is supposed to be a Sponge-Bob Square Baby Bump.

This made my day, Laura. Honestly. V-A stole my line, but it bears repeating. We love you!

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Dear Laura,

Please don't be offended by the offer of contributions from your blog readers. I know you're reluctant to accept funds, but given the quality of writing and research you're doing, it's only fair that you let us partner with you to help underwrite the cost of your fine work. We all benefit from your work product, and since some of us have already bought Finding Clarity (and loved it!), we need another means to support your outstanding blog.

Now, if you insist on paying pay for 100% of the non-"fair use" content and research, that's fine; but at least allow us to supplement the cost of your personal trainer to "thrash your guts" and help you get a set of abs like Ms. Palin. No pain, no gain. You gotta pay Hanz and Franz to... pump you up!

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K.M.R
8/1/2011 09:07:55 am

Reading the comments here will have to wait until tomorrow for I've no time right now.
Before signing off, I did want to say thank you to you Laura, Gryphen and the commenter who found these positively revealing photos. A huge thank you also to Brian Wallace, the photographer who has got us all excited over this new find.

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lakelucilleloon
8/1/2011 09:10:05 am

http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/2011/07/18/tori-spelling-pregnant-style-maternity-jumpsuit-a-hit-or-miss-photos/

Here's Tori Spelling, daughter of Aaron Spelling, pregnant with her third child that is due in early October. She's 5 foot 6 inches tall and often accused of being anorexic. Still, with over two months to go, she is very pregnant looking. Sarah should have looked like this in the Museum photo, but she didn't. She just looked like a 44 year old woman that ate heavy meal.

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BradScharlott
8/1/2011 09:10:45 am

Woo hoo! Let me work up a comparison with Gusty pic.

Just too cool!

Melly's "spandex kind of cummerbund" is right on target - I think that's it!

Break out the champagne!

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lilly lily
8/1/2011 09:20:03 am

I really think someone who is on to Palin should get rights to all the pertinent photographs. People Magazine if need be, before an offer is made that the photographer may not refuse... to deep six his photos.

So much vanished without a trace since this woman was shoved down our throats non stop by the McCain/Palin run, and after that by the Faux News- Murdoch juggernaut.

The puppet masters invested a load of money into her coffers, arranging for those ridiculous 100,000$ chit chats and her T.V. studio and all the rest that went with her becoming a Rogue puppet. Of course she has always been a Pinochio a liar of liars, but what did they care?

Murdoch likes his entre into high places.

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kalena
8/1/2011 09:20:20 am

It is odd that they are posted on a photo sharing site in E. Europe with the captions about Prof. Brad Scharlott. Were you able to determine who posted them there? Did you find and contact the photographer? It seems as though someone is trying to help prove the hoax at this point in time. It would be telling to know who posted them there now? and why? No?

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V ictoria link
8/1/2011 09:21:27 am

I hope that the MSM finally sees this.

I hope that the dishonest members of the MSM are exposed and that the more honest ones kick themselves for not speaking up.

I hope that the Palin groupies finally realize what a fraud she is. I hope they demand their money back from Harper Collins for the lies they bought from her.

I hope that Harper Collins demands its money back from her.

I hope people stop buying the lies of the Republican party (and that they review skeptically anything said by the Democrats - politicians are too tempted to squeeze the truth). This lie is so outrageous that it might cause at least a temporary increase in attention.

Well done!

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NSG
8/1/2011 09:24:16 am

Seeing that pic, in that size and detail, with no watermark -- wow!

Thanks, Laura, Gryphen & the original commenter who shared the link and the others who have highlighted it.

I have to LOL at ConsciousatLast's comment about how SP must have some wicked stretch marks after that miraculous 3-week, um, expansion.

Say, I have an idea for Granny Grifter. She should be the spokesmodel for Mederma cream!!! :D

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lilly lily
8/1/2011 09:29:26 am

HT to B. Austin at 7:58a.m. over at IM.. who tracked the Sarah Palin pictures down at profimedia.

I think it is the beginning of the end of the pregnancy hoax.

Perhaps not the end of Sarah Palins political career. She will hang on by the skin of her teeth till no one will pay her a dime for her nonsense.

She is a greedy parasite on the body politic.

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lilly lily
8/1/2011 09:42:43 am

Well enough for today.

Looking forward to reading of developments tomorrow and a side by side comparison between the Gusty, pickle barrel-empathy suit shot, and the March 26th 2008 photo as Sarah Palin left the Museum.

I wonder if Palin is as pleased as she looked that day at Laura Novaks blog today.

I'm sure she has seen it and is planning and scheming all her sleepless night through.

We will be reading again about her happy-happy family from Lifer..

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silver
8/1/2011 09:43:29 am

Good work, Laura! A big thank you to all who helped get these photos out there and to those who continue to search for the truth.

Didn't Sarah say she gave birth a month early so she would have supposedly been about 7 months in the picture then?

I agree with those who think it may have been compression bandages from lipo
as KatieAnnieOakley shows in the lightened pics.

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Laura Novak link
8/1/2011 09:56:12 am

1 Smart, Thank you so much for buying Finding Clarity. And Jeff, perhaps you're right, though I'm laughing too hard at your comment to think about it right now. Truly, to help an author/writer/reporter is to support their work, whatever it may be.

Silver, nice to see you again and yes, great work all around for all these years. And by my calculations, she is 8 months here, but perhaps Allie RN can weigh in on this for better accuracy. Geesh, what am I even saying!!

BTW, I have been so consumed with this for the past 24 hours, did something happen in Washington that I missed? (joke.)

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KarenJ
8/1/2011 10:07:03 am

Sartorial splendor:

I think the reason Sarah Palin's left pants leg is so seemingly wrinkled is because she's wearing her knee-high boots under those pants, and the pants are static-clinging to the boots.

And that one fabric dimple under her knee is the fabric being stuck a little bit between her boot top and her leg.

Also, notice how HUGE that gray jacket is. Her left hand is practically lost in the sleeve.

She must have borrowed the jacket from some 250 pound family member or close friend (Kristin Cole's embezzling mother? http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/24/alaska-fund-trust-its-the-new-sarahpac/ )

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daisydem
8/1/2011 10:07:21 am

To the commenter who asked why she would have a tummy tuck right after announcing that she was pregnant, maybe she didn't just have it. She had had a tummy tuck, and after she announced she was pregnant, she put on the convenient compression bandage left over from the surgery to show something of a "baby bump."

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daisydem
8/1/2011 10:10:56 am

She's had several things done to her face, hasn't she. I mean look at her face in this picture. It is fresh and very young looking. It has only been 3 years, but she looks so much different.

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Virginia Voter
8/1/2011 10:12:02 am

He, he...yeah, I agree with Melly. It looks like Sarah strapped a small pillow or pad under her shirt and pants and secured it with a Thermacare back pain heat pad which straps around your waist with a white stretchy velco band. I do a lot of heavy lifting for work and use them when I pull a muscle occasionally .

If you really want to freak, open the picture in any basic photo program and lighten it. The pillow is even more obvious.

And to Jeff, you are correct, a pregnant belly is rock hard, and in the later stages you can actually feel feet poking out. Some women carry high and round like a basketball, some lower and
wider like a tire, but NEVER rectangular like a pillow. Just doesn't happen.

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Brad Scharlott
8/1/2011 10:15:36 am

Damn! That's a lot of cheese nachos in two weeks to balloon up like that!

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mxm
8/1/2011 10:22:27 am

I look forward to the post Blade has promised to write about a medical procedure Sarah had while claiming to be pregnant. Very few elective procedures would be sanctioned during a high risk pregnancy. Emergency procedures would be undertaken, but the life of the fetus is imperiled.

I have never seen a photo of Palin wearing that style of pant before or after the museum visit. They appear to be elastic waist, stretchy, thin material. Why did she find that a more comfortable outfit? Because the pillow fit nicely? Well, she had another suitable outfit to don for the Elan Frank film.

Because she was recovering from some surgical procedure? Perhaps.

I look forward to whatever Blade can share.

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zenna
8/1/2011 10:29:08 am

It's even more compelling when you also see the picture of Bristol at the very same 32 weeks of pregnancy:

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2011/07/like-mother-like-daughter-only-not.html

Sarah Palin is the biggest hoax in American political history.

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the other jk
8/1/2011 10:42:07 am

It think Sarah decided this day that she would show the world her "baby bump." Nice going Sarah, you look like the lying idiot you are.

Why in the world wouldn't she fake it under an actual maternity shirt? Sarah Palin's middle name is Hubris.

Let's not forget that Trig wasn't reported to be a tiny preemie. His birth announcement claimed his weight as just over 6 lbs. The average full term baby weighs between 6 and 9 lbs. Even if we believe that Sarah Palin didn't gain an ounce over what was absolutely necessary, where's the 6lb baby plus amniotic fluid in that photo?

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KatieAnnieOakley
8/1/2011 10:42:52 am

When I had abdominal surgery two summers ago, I had to wear a full abdominal compression binder that looked just like this:

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/103746474/abdominal_binder_belt_.jpg

It is meant to close in the front, as shown... which would give heft to the abdomen... OR it can be closed to the back... with a large coat hiding the bulk of it. Note the horizontal lines in the construction of the garment that can also be seen in the photo above...

Remember, she was angling to be McCain's VP, and wanted to be as physically attractive as possible.

*snark ON*

How 'BOUT that 5 time baby mama, loosing all that baby weight so quickly after delivering a downs child just in time to be picked by McCain - what a woman - she can do it ALL... *gag*

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rubbernecking
8/1/2011 10:56:46 am

It's interesting that the photos were packaged into a series called "Sarah Palin birth controversy" and each photo tagged with the description of Brad's paper.

The photo series includes some 2007 photos that show Palin's slim profile, a slim Jan 2008 photo, a larger Feb 2008 photo. Is the Feb 5, 2008 picture with Piper unusual?

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justafarmer4
8/1/2011 11:34:54 am

Hi Laura!
I had to clear the cache in Firefox, then Firefox AND computer locked up while that was going on. Managed to reboot the computer and all is well now.
{wipes sweat from forehead}

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Venefica
8/1/2011 11:37:33 am

Outstanding work, Laura! But I think the "Palin is said to be eight months pregnant here" caption isn't quite right. She alleges that Trig was born a month premature on 4/18/08. So she would have been sevenish months' pregnant on 3/26/08...?

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justafarmer4
8/1/2011 11:37:56 am

what Katie said, only I had to wear a fairly hefty velcroed padded brace for a cracked rib or two. The brace was just under my breasts and extended to my upper abdomen, just below the lowest ribs, and I looked EXACTLY like sarah does in these photos.

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kilob
8/1/2011 11:47:33 am

Hey Lousie, you have some splaining to do!

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MsJoanne
8/1/2011 11:54:03 am

look, I hate this witch as much as the next person, but she totally looks pregnant here. I had a friend who was 2 weeks from giving birth, weighed 110 lbs and looked smaller than Palin does in this pic. Look at how baggy her pants are. And how long her belly is.

This is as pointless as Obama's birth certificate and it makes us all look bad.

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Up
8/1/2011 11:57:46 am

Thank you to you and to Gryphen. I'd already planned to buy a copy of your book when I could pry the ipad away from my husband and children, now it appears everyone in my extended family will be receiving a copy for the holidays. :-D

Lily lily, the first mention of this photo that I've seen was on the Watergate post yesterday, by KMR.

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mary
8/1/2011 12:05:15 pm

to MsJoann who said "I had a friend who was 2 weeks from giving birth, weighed 110 lbs and looked smaller than Palin does in this pic. Look at how baggy her pants are. And how long her belly is.

This is as pointless as Obama's birth certificate and it makes us all look bad."

blah, blah, blah. False equivalency.

p.s. - your friend sounds like she should be studied by a team of scientists.

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Pam
8/1/2011 12:06:44 pm

OK, I bought your book, thank you very much.. but I don't know when I will find the time to read it since I spend so much time reading these darn, and very enlightening, blogs!! Good luck in your pursuit of the truth!!

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FrostyAK
8/1/2011 12:20:20 pm

Raise your hand high if you are STILL Trignostic. Is that you Lou Sarah with your hand in the air?

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FEDUP!!!
8/1/2011 12:20:55 pm

Make sure that 'Fred' From Gryphen) who writes a baby-gate book is getting a copy of this picture...

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B
8/1/2011 12:30:01 pm

@Venefica. She had announced about a month earlier that she was 7 mos. pregnant. She claimed to give birth about half a month later at 8.5 months. (That was her initial claim.) I think Laura has it right.

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TF
8/1/2011 12:32:43 pm

This photo is a terrific find. Question: does the shape of Todd's pants seem distorted to anyone other than me? They seem double wide in this picture. Is that because of the angle the photo was taken or because of the lens used?

Thanks Laura!

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Darklady link
8/1/2011 12:37:01 pm

A normal sized baby... who was born 3 - 5 weeks premature (depending on which version of her story she was telling)...

Is this the same outfit she was wearing in the photo with the schoolgirl? Was it the same day?

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justafarmer4
8/1/2011 12:59:20 pm

@ darklady, same say, same outfit.
@ MsJoanne, see my post just a bit earlier to yours. I had a flexible rib brace for a couple of cracked/broken ribs and looked more pregnant, but the outline is the same. That woman was NOT pregnant three weeks before allegedly giving birth.

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KarenJ
8/1/2011 01:02:48 pm

lilly lily said "HT to B. Austin at 7:58a.m. over at IM.. who tracked the Sarah Palin pictures down at profimedia."

http://www.profimedia.si/editorial/search/photographer/PC-0092945028

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MsJoanne, I can't tell you how many testimonials like yours of your friend we Babygate skeptics have read.

It's not pointless at all, and it's NOTHING like the stupid birther conspiracy theory.

I'll bet your friend didn't look like she swallowed a basketball 2 weeks later, like Sarah Palin did 4/13/08 in the Andrea Gusty photograph.

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KatzKids
8/1/2011 01:25:35 pm

Great find, thanks to all who have worked so diligently on this. True investigative reporters!!! Special thanks to you and Gryphen Laura!

May I suggest that you also add the picture of Palin when she actually WAS pregnant to the Gusty photo & this one? That has always put the nail in the coffin for me. She couldn't control her abs when she was in early 20s, so she expects people to believe that in her 40s she has more control? RFLAMO!

Thanks all!

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KatieAnnieOakley
8/1/2011 01:38:59 pm

Here's a quickie of a side-by-side with the Gusty photo: http://twitpic.com/5zn7e7

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Ferry Fey
8/1/2011 01:48:34 pm

Maybe it's just a poorly fitted bra, but her breasts look pretty flopsy for that stage of her alleged pregnancy.

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Ginger
8/1/2011 01:53:40 pm

To all the people wondering what device Sarah has on in that picture, we, from Palin's Deceptions, know. Audrey had a picture of it on one of her posts. How I wish I could find it. The device was about 15" long and 6" wide. The depth, I would say, was about 2". It was probably filled with foam. On both sides, were long ties with velcro. It was so much easier to wear than a full body pregnancy suit. All you had to do was strap it on.

Bristol really liked it. She used it on many occasions. When? While she was faking a Tripp pregnancy. She has it on when she is running, on Dec. 14, 2008, ahead of her family, thru the ice and snow at 8-1/2 months pregnant, to get to the school/church because she spotted the camera.

Then, I think she has it on in the picture Gryphen posted in March, 2009 of her at the Iron Dog race that year. Also, I think she wore it under her t-shirt when she went back-and-forth to her DWTS practices. No way, Jose, could they push all that into spandex.

The Palins love to do stuff like this and they laugh...all the way to the bank!

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silver
8/1/2011 01:57:08 pm

Hi Laura, I had dinner and then recalculated and you are correct about the 8 months. When checking google images for the same time period and women wearing the same tighter top, there is a noticeable difference between them and Sarah.

The photos confirm my original beliefs, no way did she give birth on April 18 as she claims.

On my screen it looks like Todd is wearing a hairpiece on top too. :)

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mudmanor
8/1/2011 02:17:29 pm

The wrinkles are way beyond static electricity. I think she needed big stretchy pants to fit over the liposuction pad and it's holder. She finally found a pair jumbled up in the far corner of the closet and grabbed them. After all she's so special, who cares about wrinkles?
And yes the coat definitely belongs to someone 6" taller and a size 16.

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justafarmer4
8/1/2011 02:33:56 pm

Katie, love your side-by side photos.
If you compare to how she looked at the Texas meeting the day of the reckless ride, she wasn't anywhere near the belly size as in the Gusty photo.

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Tada
8/1/2011 02:44:40 pm

@TF: Yes, I also noticed Todd's pants seem distorted (seems too wide). Same thing with Todd's shoulder (seems too wide). The space between Sarah's legs also seems too wide.

Laura: Did you notice this as well? Does the original picture look like this, or did it get distorted when adding it to the blog (I know you had that issue with a the Gusty picture a while back - it looked distorted here, but looked fine when viewing the "original" at Palin's Deceptions).

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Melly
8/1/2011 03:16:06 pm

Another link to spandex-y kind of band. I think the width of this one is very similar to what she's got on.

http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-ice-%26-heat-wrap/ID=prod3874200-product

I actually feel a little embarrassed, like I'm looking at Palin's underwear. Can't get over these pictures...I do hope we learn their provenance.

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jeff
8/1/2011 03:16:16 pm

@MsJoanne

I'm sorry but that was really a lame attempt at doing a concern troll routine for "our" credibility. Have you seen the Gusty picture which Ms. Gusty was so kind to confirm that it was shot on April 13, 2008. Do you know what happens physiologically to a woman's body during pregnancy to prepare her body to allow her to deliver a child? Do you know what would happen to a woman's uterus and abdomen if her baby and her amniotic sac of fluid both expanded at the growth rate that would be necessary to increase from her size in THIS PICTURE (3/26/08) to the huge size and shape that Gusty photographed of Sarah on 4/13/08, only 18 days later? For your benefit and simple mind, let's just say that Ms Palin wouldn't be expressing herself multiple times saying "how easy this pregnancy was" or that this was her "easist pregnancy of all".

Nice of you to visit though, JoAnne. And please do ttell everyone at the Sea of Pee hello. It will be interesting to read the comments of the Sarah-worshippers later this evening. Bottom line: Mrs Todd Palin has some 'splainin' to do!

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Ottoline
8/1/2011 03:19:42 pm

Oh how terrific that you and IM bought the rights to these photos. Congratulations!

Commenters here are speculating how far along she is supposed to be on Mar 26. How do you calculate a non-pregnancy? The medical letter supposedly by CBJ says "SP was in her 35th week when she delivered," so Mar 26 would be in week 32 according to the med letter:

http://s406.photobucket.com/albums/pp141/WestCorrespondent/Sarah%20Palin/?action=view¤t=5weekstobaby.jpg

Of course SP later said she delivered at 7.5 months. Oh well, any calculation is as good as any other when you are faking it.

I am beyond thrilled to see these photos come to light, to support the other photos, to support Fred's book. But I have to ask: if the Mar 14 photo was not good enough for proof, why is this good enough????? Just because it's one more photo session? Oh well, no matter, at least we are getting to be on the same page.

Now my question is: in what exact way is the MSM going to resist acknowledging this? I have come to think the lack of attn to this subject is a high-level management edict. I really don't think today's reporters are much better or worse than reporters in other eras -- although admittedly it's a hard time to be in the news business. (Oh, boo hoo, reporters: it's hard to be middle-class, too. Even harder to be poor. And if the Repugs have their way, it will all spiral still further downward fast, as a result of decreased gov't spending and continuing decreased taxes from our wealthiest Americans. Get ready for a huge nosedive.)

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TksABunchJohn link
8/1/2011 03:38:24 pm

This is dynamite! Please put this next to "lazy abs" Gwyneth Paltrow and Demi Moore...the contrast would be insane!

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Rationalist
8/1/2011 03:40:03 pm

Holy mackerel - I've been busy the past couple weeks and not checking as often and now this. This is awesome, Laura. Thank you for investing the money to publish it.

Sooner or later, the straw will break the camel's back. This may be that straw.

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search4more
8/1/2011 04:17:58 pm

HOLY CRAP!!!


....um. HOLY CRAP!. :-)

Haven't read anyone else's comments yet. I will now.

..I just wanted to say HOLY CRAP!

...good work Laura and Gryphen. Wow those are some high resolution photographs. they are in natural light. There are multiple photographs and you know who took them, and you have the rights to them. ...wow.

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John Thomas
8/1/2011 04:24:00 pm

Could hubby be right? Could this just be a 40something woman who has a "pooch" from giving birth to a few kids? It is certainly not a seriously pregnant woman.

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fishlady
8/1/2011 04:33:25 pm

I have looked and looked at these pictues there is NO WAY she was pregnant... Now to try to explain how I have come to my conclusion......look at her pants... they are baggy above the crotch to the pillow... there is no baby there... even if she were to say I carried high... there still would be weightin the pelvic area..there is NONE...I keep going back again and again and I still see nothing as far as any bulk in the lower pelvic area... and when I carried my kidsthat was where I "showed" first... I have never seen anyone mention this in all the reading I have done over the past several years...

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V ictoria link
8/1/2011 06:00:30 pm

I'm having fantasies of this changing the tenor of politics in Arizona (which is where I'm registered, although I spend a lot of time overseas). Imagine, Giffords back in office (although she's going to have a hard time of it still) and McCain exposed (although I don't dislike him as much as I do some other politicians).

Good work, everyone!

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Sunnyjane
8/1/2011 06:28:24 pm

It looks to me like she's got a flotilla device that water skiers use strapped around her waist. Not very original, Sarah, and certainly not very convincing!

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headtrip_honey
8/1/2011 10:53:08 pm

You want to see a real pregnant woman?

http://ilovebean.tumblr.com/post/537370274

This is the "belly progression" of a woman who, in addition to being around 5'6" and petite, is a marathon runner. I'd challenge you to find someone with tighter abs.

Check out what her belly looks like at 32 weeks. Then look at Sarah.

Yeah....no.

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Lidia17
8/1/2011 10:54:00 pm

@Laura, any thoughts on the name of this photo agency, "Polaris"??

Or is it just a coincidence?

[There are about 37 entities connected with SP that reference it, plus she calls herself that—"North Star".]

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nenagh
8/1/2011 11:10:19 pm

Well done, Laura.

Re the odd looking black pants..

I'm north of the St. Lawrence River.. and years ago saw nearly identical pants for sale here to the ones Sarah is wearing in the photograph. The pants were in a black jersey material with vertical pleats, held together on the vertical line by those small stitches you see along Palin's leg.

The pants were for sale here in a high end store.. once seen hard to forget.

Also, interesting to see Sarah in a firm leather boot or shoe.. no foot/ankle swelling for our Sarah when 7 or 8 months pregnant.

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rubbernecking
8/1/2011 11:16:33 pm

I bought the book and am very looking forward to reading it.

After looking at the additional photos on IM, I might have guessed pregnant from the minivan photo. The belly/chest ratio in the minivan photo looks different than the walking photos.

I don't have any medical training. My inner math/tech wonk wondered how much a baby's head circumference affects a pregnant woman's profile so I started googling.

Using one chart for all babies, I see that for newborn males, their head circumference will range from 32-38cm, and the 50th percentile is 36cm.

For babies with DS, it looks like the typical ranges are lower, males are 29-36cm and the 50th percentile is 32.5cm.

Would an OB use different prenatal growth charts when treating a woman known to be carrying a baby with DS?

All babies: http://www.infantchart.com/infantheadage.php
Babies with DS: http://www.growthcharts.com/charts/DS/mahe0to3.gif

P.S. I know this does not resolve the rapid growth spurt from 3/28 to 4/13.

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headtrip_honey
8/1/2011 11:39:49 pm

@rubbernecking

I don't know about different prenatal charts, but here's a "belly progression" of a mother who gave birth to a boy with Downs Syndrome (also a month early, as Trig allegedly was) who weighed six pounds at birth:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0nHIGwib39Y/SVd9G7kz_oI/AAAAAAAACHY/1WU-m6UiUH0/s1600-h/7+month+compare.jpg

Compare her 7 months to Sarah.

Also, keep reading her blog (hang-on-little-tomato.blogspot.com)...it's an inspiring story of love and family.

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Neversaynether
8/1/2011 11:40:06 pm

Where did she get the Sympathy Belly, if that is what she used in the Gusty photo?

I found one website claiming that they are the only supplier (http://empathybelly.com/about_birthways.html) and that they "sell "the belly" as part of a comprehensive teaching module, and therefore ONLY to professionals and institutions such as doctors, nurses, hospitals, prenatal educators, medical and nursing schools, counselors, teachers of junior and senior high schools, museums, college and universities, social workers, public health clinics, family planning agencies and a variety of social service programs."

Maybe she didn't have it on sooner because it seems difficult to get? It must be possible to track if any of these were shipped to Alaska.

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jeff
8/1/2011 11:53:56 pm

@Lidia

What a nice catch there! And very interesting whether it's a coincidence or not. Of course, Mrs Todd Palin would argue that there are no coincidences.

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Leona
8/1/2011 11:55:13 pm

The mythical Sarah Palin shoots caribou and moose, makes moose chili, serves as governor while raising a wholesome family, thrashes her guts out running to keep her trim figure, poses for Vogue magazine looking like a supermodel, raises the hopes of the ignorant and downtrodden everywhere, hides her pregnancy with tight abs, valiantly gives a speech while enduring labor twinges, calmly rides home from Texas during early labor, text messages goverment business while in labor, shows up at a podunk hospital in the middle of nowhere to deliver a premature special needs baby in two hours, sallies back to office three days later looking fresh as a daisy, leaps tall buildings at a single bound, etc. Did I leave anything out?

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ProChoiceGrandma
8/1/2011 11:57:34 pm

Fantastic, Laura! Congratulations!

I have tweeted this post to some of the Journolisters who knew about the "rumors" in August 2008 but decided there wasn't enough evidence so they silenced the story, apparently forever. I also tweeted to Emi Kolawole who was one of the authors of the POS FactCheck.org article "Muting the Mommy Melodrama" written on 9-16-08. I am still waiting for the day when FactCheck corrects their erroneous finding.

Gee, if Todd had only been a gentleman and held the door open for his wife, Sarah could have used her non-Blackberry hand to keep her coat closed.

Hey @MsJoanne, (or should I say MsSarah?), we've heard that lame excuse before. You forgot to say she 'looks pregnant in the face'.

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mary
8/2/2011 12:28:33 am

Tada, please see this post by Laura and Brad Scharlott - it addresses the distortion that happens when professional photographers use certain lenses:

http://www.lauranovakauthor.com/1/post/2011/05/the-ides-of-sarahs-spring-2008.html

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 12:30:04 am

I nearly went to Philadelphia to observe the first lawyer who challenged President Obama on the birth certificate. I believe his name was Philip Berg Esq. I decided not to do so as a waste of gas and car mileage, but watched on the net as one after another challenges where knocked down.

This is nothing like the birth certificate, (he was born in Kenya) nonsense, but I followed it off and on to see what was what.

It is in front of our eyes via photography.

Sarah Palins operatives and McCains goons could deep six most tight ab (no pregnancy) photo after photo, but some slipped through. And these, after she said she was 7 months preggers, but couldn't be bothered to do a decent job of acting pregnant or looking pregnant.

Too vain.

You walk, you swell up, your mid section grows, but no, Sarah Palin though she has been pregnant numerous times couldn't be bothered to do a decent faked pregnancy. Her vanity, and stupidity shows in this as in everything else she has done in the public eye.

O.K. she goes to Washington conferance with her security chief, and wears jeans with no trace of a belly, then baloons out with an empathy belly at the conference. How bright is this woman?

I would say the very dumbest of all those females the Republicans have pushed down the American publics throats.

Bachman, dumb. McDonnell dumber. Palin the dumbest.

Amazon sells empathy bellies. You can home jerry up one any time. Theatrical companies manage all the time. Peas in the Pod have little pregnant belly pads in their dressing rooms for different months.

Pie in the sky easy. Like the lies that slip out of that womans mouth day after day.

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Molly
8/2/2011 01:02:08 am

It's remarkable how Sarah's breast size is not that large in the above pic. At that stage, she actually looked quite healthy, but at nearly seven and a half months pregnant she is definitely not sporting pregnant boobies.

Compare that to the Belmont girls and the White House Correspondents Lunch girls when Sarah is much thinner.

Something doesn't add up!

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curiousagain
8/2/2011 01:18:00 am

To the "hates her guts" but definitely thinks she looks 7 months pregnant I would refer to the 5'2", 105 lb, fit, toned mother of my two children (5' three week preemie and her 9' full term brother), she blew by this photo at three months. It was Christmas and both times we wanted to surprise her family. She wrapped, loose clothed and everything she could think of but one of my nieces knew it when she walked in the door. By seven months she was the Gusty photo and then some on my son. This photo tells the whole story. She is NOT pregnant unless she has her belly squeezed so flat the baby has shifted down to her rear. Or maybe its hidden in Toad's pants legs,

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 01:37:06 am

I have had an interaction of sorts on the net with one of the Obama Haters, and Sarah bots.

I don't think ANYTHING will change these idiots minds about Sarah Palin. They hate President Obama and they worship Queen Esther.

So we carry on, waiting for her doctor to admit that Trig Palin was not born to Sarah Palin on April 18 2008.

Even THAT wouldn't change their minds, after all she is superwoman and the re-incarnated Queen Esther.

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comeonpeople
8/2/2011 02:01:22 am

I posted this over at IM as well.
i think this has some relevance:

once took care of a baby a few months old who had neuroblastoma S, a fast growing abdominal tumor that sometimes spontaneously goes into remission. Anyway, this baby's belly experienced the kind of sudden growth/stretching that Sarah would have needed to go from March 26 to Gusty in April in 18 days. The skin actually ripped open at his healed belly button from the fast stretching and he leaked fluid from there. He was in terrible pain and respiratory distress from sudden constriction of diaphragm.
Normal pregnancy progression allows the body to stretch slowly. Blood volume and hemoglobin levels increase to make up (in part) for compromised respiratory status in later stages of pregnancy.
Sarah would be a seriously ill woman if she grew from March 26 until Gusty photo size in 18 days.

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Lidia17
8/2/2011 02:28:29 am

You have beat me to it!
I did a short video (1:30) with the two photos here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDfw9KGApks

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Deb
8/2/2011 02:28:54 am

It is really quite simple. Palin's pregnancy is easily explained as a combination of two story lines from television: 1) Bree Palin's faked pregnancy on Desperate Housewives and 2) Boliva's accelerated pregnancy in an alternative universe in Fringe. Boliva went from no pregnancy to delivery in a few days in a manner similar to Palin.

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Laura Novak link
8/2/2011 02:30:06 am

I had a close relative die of neuroblastoma and it's a horrible life and death. My heart goes out to anyone who has experienced this up close. It changed our lives forever.

Thanks to Brad we have these comparisons. And no matter what you think of the original shot (that doubter who posted earlier) it's the 2.5 week progression that is truly startling.

And yes, the photo cost $100 and no I don't have PayPal. But if anyone is interested in helping, my just launched novel is only $4.99 and supporting that is a huge help to me. And thank you so much to those of you who have just bought Finding Clarity. It's full of hilarity and sleuthing and smart social satire. (or so I'm told from my early reviews!)

Here's the link again if anyone's interested:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/60196371/Finding-Clarity-A-Mom-A-Dwarf-A-Posh-Private-School-in-the-People-s-Republic-of-Berkeley

Thank you all for this engaging conversation. And don't forget: there are MANY more photos on Polaris for purchase. Might be worth keeping some.

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Ottoline
8/2/2011 02:32:19 am

Lidia17: Time to do part 3!

Just looked at your part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ZtzPI2OMw
and part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm9YxKbmQrk&feature=related

and they sure look good in view of this new photo. And the high quality of your work is a real treat, both visually, in terms of clarity, and in terms of the info presented.

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V ictoria link
8/2/2011 02:39:19 am

Dear Laura and Brad - thanks so much for lightening the photo (I tried to do it myself but I have not yet figured out how) and including the side-by-side with the Gusty photo.

I don't care if Sarah had liposuction (a reasonable choice for anyone who spends a lot of time before a camera) or if her pants legs are wrinkled (don't look at my pants legs now). What I care about is the relationship between her breasts and her belly from one picture to the next, a scant 18 days between.

How about showing it to a doctor, Laura?

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Molly
8/2/2011 02:44:11 am

Laura, I tried to purchase your book but it is not available outside the US. I started to read it and thought it was hilarious, so was very disappointed when I was unable to buy a copy.

Lidia, your video is great. Short and to the point!

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Conscious at last
8/2/2011 02:45:14 am

@ rubbernecking

I suggest you look at this-- http://www.babycenter.com/fetal-development-week-by-week

You will see that the size of the baby's head has little or NOTHING to do with a pregnant woman's profile during the last trimester.

If properly engaged, the head is facing downward, the baby bump is the rest of the baby's body, the amniotic fluid, etc...

But the main point is that Sarah Palin did not have a baby in her cumberbund.
She did not have a baby in her square pillow. She did not have a baby in her empathy belly. In 2008, Sarah Palin did not have a baby, at all, PERIOD.

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Viola-Alex
8/2/2011 02:47:09 am

not to sound ungrateful, Laura -- but will you tell us what you know about the photographer, about Polaris, and about why these photos just surfaced now-- AND why they carry captions referencing Brad S's work? Very curious.

I hope you're working on the rest of this story. . .

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Cracklin' Charlie
8/2/2011 02:50:19 am

comeonpeople,

Is the baby you cared for better now?

And Sarah is a seriously ill woman, just not in the way you imply. She's nuts!

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Molly
8/2/2011 02:53:53 am

Andrew Sullivan has linked to your blog.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/08/between-march-26-and-april-12.html

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Viola-Alex
8/2/2011 02:54:40 am

"Intrepid Laura Novak!" Absolutely.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/08/between-march-26-and-april-12.html

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Ottoline
8/2/2011 02:54:46 am

Lidia17 -- I love your short new ideo. What a thrill to see it when it has 2! views. Hope it goes viral and brings people to your other two excellent longer videos (links above) for a more complete statement.

Laura-- I'm buying your book too, of course.

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Texasperson
8/2/2011 02:56:30 am

I hate to say it but she looks pregnant in these pictures. I want to believe this theory, and I think the wild ride is total BS, but... Look at the way her stomach protrudes around the groin area making the pants loose there. That is not a flat belly. I still have not seen any conclusive, 100% she was not pregnant pictures, and sadly, I have reviewed them all. I have seen some that "could" be true, and the wild ride story is so fake and irresponsible. Coming from a mom of three ... she could be pregnant in that photo.

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Palintologist
8/2/2011 03:07:33 am

Brilliant, simply brilliant.

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Laura Novak link
8/2/2011 03:11:52 am

Thank you to the fearless Andrew Sullivan for linking to this post and my Watergate/Babygate post:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/08/between-march-26-and-april-12.html


And thanks to all of YOU for making this possible!

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Bree Palin
8/2/2011 03:22:26 am

I echo Viola-Alex - I would love to know the story behind these photos suddenly dropping into Gryphen's comments.

And I also highly recommend Lidia17's videos on this subject - especially to newcomers to this story - she has all the right pieces in all the right places.

Congrats to Laura - awesome work!

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Lori
8/2/2011 03:34:06 am

Talk about nails in coffins, also, too... (Just sayin'.)

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Ottoline
8/2/2011 03:34:31 am

Texasperson: PLEASE! Comment on the Mar 14 photo. Does she look pregnant there? 5 weeks before delivery? So eager to hear your explanation. Please respond so we can understand how it is possible.

http://s406.photobucket.com/albums/pp141/WestCorrespondent/Sarah%20Palin/?action=view¤t=5weekstobaby.jpg

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Ennealogic link
8/2/2011 03:40:33 am

Laura, if there are more photos and if they can be purchased (or even if some of the same ones can be purchased by others) could you drop me an email and let me know how?

These are too important to disappear.

Thank you!

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 03:41:19 am

Now that Andrew Sullivan has linked to IM and Laura Novak and her blog I think the mainstream media better take a good look and investigate properly.

Far be it from me to tout the bloggers horn, but dammnit the blogs and the bloggers have scored one for the good guys,.

The bells have been rung, the light has shined into the cracks in her sordid story.

Let the truth come out, let the light shine in and sanitize the tundra twits half baked lies and babygate.

I'm going to youtube to listen to some vintage Leonard Cohen and celebrate with a frozen lime margarita.

Three cheers for Laura, Gryphen and last but not least and very important to this story, Andrew Sullivan.

HT to B Austin at 7:28 in the IM comments for posting that photo, whoever you are and wherever you are, hugs...

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Lidia17
8/2/2011 03:45:27 am

"HT to B. Austin at 7:58a.m. over at IM.. who tracked the Sarah Palin pictures down at profimedia."

B.Austin, if you're out there, my hat's off to you today!

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Laura Novak link
8/2/2011 03:48:42 am

Here is the website. I will update my blog post with it:

http://www.polarisimages.com/

There is an intriguing one of her on 1/15/08 where she looks quite thin. But as I said, $100 was my limit and it was stretching it. But others might want to buy.

I wish I could tell you WHO put that link on IM or how they knew about it. All I know is that Gryphen wrote to me and off we went. It took me a full 24 hours to nail down the rights, but there you have it.

The photographer is in Juneau. I traced him a variety of ways. I have no sense that these were hidden. And again, I have no idea who that commenter was or why they found them now.

All I know is that it was worth all the work and well worth examining this.

And Molly, I know Scribd doesn't yet sell in Europe. I'm sorry but thanks for reading the first 2 chapters there and for trying!! I'm trying to study how to upload to Kindle, but it's complicated. And truthfully, it was supposed to be my Sunday project. Now it will be another week before I get to it. And man, it's complicated, formatting for it. :-)

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comeonpeople
8/2/2011 03:53:02 am

@ Cracklin Charlie: Sadly no, that child did not survive, even though most babies with neuroblastoma 4S do survive. His just grew too quckly in too little of a space in too quick a time. We could not support all his body systems affected before it stopped growing. In the end we even left his abdominal cavity open to relieve pressure to no avail.
Neuroblastoma is a bad disease (but 4S is technically not as bad as they spontaneously remiss). However I have seen great strides in my 26 years of practice, new antibody therapy is particularly hopeful in that one day it will allow us to forego our current "scorched earth" practice of ridding the body of disease with chemo and radiation.
@Laura, I'm sorry about your friend lost to NBL. It remains the deadliest of the pediatric cancers but we are getting better at treating it slowly but surely. It is an ugly disease.
Yeah on the Sully linkage!
Also @ cracklin charlie : I knew when I typeds it that I should have said Ssarah would be a mighty physically sick woman in addition to her mental pathologies!!

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Viola-Alex
8/2/2011 04:04:00 am

thanks, Laura, for update. The commenter on IM -- "BAustin" -- neatly planted the link. If you google him/her you'll see only a few comments at IM this year, but each one leaves a small clue. On another blog, Amy1 makes the point that these could be leaked. . . but then I've always been a proud Conspiracy Theorist. Sorry, if I taint your blog with my crazy!

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aussiegal77
8/2/2011 04:04:49 am

To all who are saying Palin COULD be pregnant in the photo from the museum - you are missing the point.

She was supposed to be at least SEVEN months pregnant in these photos. SEVEN. Not a couple of weeks, not 3 months - SEVEN. From Palin's own lips, also written in Going Rogue, Trig was born April 18.

Compare it to the Gusty photos at April 13 - it is impossible for someone to go from March 26 belly to the April 13 belly. Impossible. There is no way on God's green earth that Sarah Palin was pregnant with Trig on April 13. No way. She MAY have been pregnant with another kid - but it is absolutely NOT Trig.



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lilly lily
8/2/2011 04:09:35 am

I enjoyed this, so maybe you will too... a version of Leonard Cohen masterpiece "Anthem". It says so much that is worth listening to.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KmecrmengN4

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Ella
8/2/2011 04:18:15 am

Laura, check out this picture:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin gives her husband Todd Palin, defending champ and four-time Tesoro Iron Dog winner, a hug at the start on Big Lake on Sunday, February 10, 2008.

2 months before Trig, full length side view...ABSOLUTELY NO BELLY WHATSOEVER.

Double click for largest picture.
http://www.gettyimages.ie/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&assetType=image&family=Editorial&p=sarah+palin#102

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GBIllinois
8/2/2011 04:19:51 am

JJ @ 13:59:02 said:
I wonder if this "treatment" is liposuction, and the "cummerbund" Palin appears to be wearing are recycled bandages from tummy lipo?"
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Do You REALLY think we're going to believe Sarah had liposuction three weeks BEFORE she gave "birth" to a baby?

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Yellowgirl
8/2/2011 04:35:16 am

I second the question about the photographer-- did he tell you anything about when he put the pics up, or why they have Brad's paper info attached to them?

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 04:41:51 am

Have you gotten an increase in Palin bots since this photo came out?

Huffington seems to have put a lid on Palin articles in their all about Sarah Page. I do check it out once a day, and it hasn't changed for days. I also notice the photos of Palin are of the messier and sloppier Palin. A lot of those, but they used to feature only the groomed and attractive photos when they had some pretty gross ones to choose from that showed her level of slovenly dress.

Apparently S. Palin is imitating M. Bachman now. LOL. So much for Bristols snide "They are copying my mom."

After the babygate floodgates open on her, I'm sure her slovenly look will escalate.

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Cracklin' Charlie
8/2/2011 04:43:47 am

comeonpeople,

So sorry about your young friend, and bless you for being there for that child. I have been seeing lots of interesting reports lately about new avenues of treating cancer, some of which sound extremely promising, and much less dangerous to the patient's body.

Also, too to Laura: thank you, thank you, for your persistence and dedication to solving this mystery. I love that you are working with Gryphen and Brad on the case. See what can happen when we resolve to work together? I think there may be a message in there somewhere.

You rock!

p.s. I just drove home from work, and my car said the temperature is 112 degrees. I think the only place hotter today might be at Sarah's house, thanks to Laura and Gryphen. Now I am off to make chocolate sorbet!

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search4more
8/2/2011 05:28:41 am

seems likely to me that either this is generated by opposition research by one of the GOP presidential contenders or has been triggered by the debt ceiling chaos. Powerful people have money in the stock market. It's fine to support the Tea party to lower your taxes, but when you realise that it is possibly going to lead to the stock market and the US economy tanking then maybe your allegiances change.

I suppose the other possibility is that the photographer involved just decided now was a good time to release them. It would be great if you could interview him to work out what happened Laura. I assume you are trying. I would imagine that it's likely he won't want to talk about it. If you could get him to make a statement that the photographs are the originals though, then at least that would be ammo against anyone claiming they are photo hoped in some way.

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The other jk
8/2/2011 05:40:49 am

Tesasperson: nobody is saying Sarah had a flat belly in the photo, just that she doesn't look anywhere close to 7.5 months along. Especially considering that 2.5 weeks later, she had a belly that protruded a good 4 or 5 inches past her bustline.

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Nomoosestew
8/2/2011 06:05:44 am

It doesn't take a scientist to realize she faked the pregnancy. Any woman who has been pregnant, knew someone pregnant, or has half a brain knows.

This woman who I think is seriously off her rocker need never hold an office of the USA. She must think we are all delusional to believe she had flat abs so didn't show. Give me a break.

I was pregnant at 19 going on 20. I had a tiny frame and I looked like I was carrying a really huge basketball. Some family even though I was having twins. IMO you look bigger in the tummy when you have a tiny frame. She is an idiot.

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Melly
8/2/2011 06:07:11 am

Just want to say that I think the inside-the-museum-shot with the little girl should always accompany the outdoor shots in a line-up. The straight line of her coat in the indoor pic makes it still the nailiest nail in the coffin shot of them all.

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 06:13:56 am

Went over to Business Insider for a chuckle.

My favorite is someone who says her fleshy face shows she is pregnant.

Others chastising him for daring to put this out.

Another favorite, saying after she displayed her Belmont girls, people claimed she had implants, when she didn't.

That one I countered. After all isn't that all her modus operandi? Fake Belmont boobs, fake belly, fake everything. I think she is looking older and more haggish. When she finally looks on the outside like she is on the inside, her following will dump her.

She is all smoke and mirrors.

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 06:17:03 am

Texasperson is being selectively obtuse.

I just came from Business insider where someone claims her fleshy face shows she is pregnant. LOL. Not her belly, her fleshy face and features. The baby must have popped out of her mouth if that was the case.

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 06:31:59 am

Time to leave this discussion. Before going out to dinner I googled up Baby bumps. First one in England. You can get a value bump for 115. or a Quality bump reduced to $490... I would go for the Quality bump if I was angling to be POTUS.

Fake Bumps by Eve Lowie info@fake bumps.com Tel. +44 (0) 1462-433 074

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 06:39:54 am

Even better is a fake silicone belly for those people who insist on touching the future fake baby mothers belly. Like when she pulled up her shirt, but remained covered with an undershirt for the reporter. He could even have touched it and it would feel like real human skin.

That people do this is insane, but they do it. Sarah is a scam artist. And she is insane.

She got the idea from that T.V. show with Bree... Or was it also inspired by Juno?

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B
8/2/2011 07:19:38 am

lilly lily said, "The baby must have popped out of her mouth."

If so, that was the first thing of value ever to pop out of her mouth.

Maybe Trig popped out of her big forehead, like Athena the warrior did with Zeus. Didn't she say Trig's name meant warrior?

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Janice Soderquist
8/2/2011 07:28:16 am

When I was pregnant, my stomach was huge right above my crotch. There is no baby down there. Where is it? I would fold my arms right below my boobs. She is flat below her boobs.

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Rod
8/2/2011 07:37:51 am

Sarah Palin does not inspire me. Yet I can't understand what her motive might have been to say she was pregnant other than an attempt to save her daughter's reputation. It is weird, and fun speculation. But calling Palin a liar is like saying the sun rises in the East. There is no wonder in it anymore

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FrostyAK
8/2/2011 07:53:24 am

We need to pay homage to all those who have taken us this far in the Alaska Baby Hoax continuum. Some have dropped out along the way, but they must be credited with beginning our long journey. I don't know all the names, but a huge HT to all those bloggers.

Now that a journalism professor and an investigative journalist have joined the team, we may just find we are close to proving for all to see that the Tundra Turd IS crazy enough to think she could pull off the biggest political hoax of all time.

As the evidence mounts, we need someone with web building skills to take all of it and put it out there in a chronological, very precise fashion (with reference links)so that all the puzzle pieces come together. I think we have the majority of the pieces - now the puzzle must be constructed.

Lidia's videos are wonderful. We also need it plainly broken down for people to read as well, complete with the full range of chronological pics. I expect that would be enough even for a jury in AK to convict the perpetrator. Though I am sure the bots have drunk so much Kool Aide that they would be led screaming from the courtroom that their queen ester was as pure and perfect as the driven snow.

We, of course, know this will never go to court; she will not sue those who pursue the truth. In court she would have to produce proof that she birthed Trig on April 18. There obviously IS no such proof.

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K.M.R
8/2/2011 08:04:55 am

It's a terrible thing, I'm sure you'd all agree, to pull off a hoax of such proportions against the United States.
The part that makes me scratch my head the most is how was she able to fool her whole family into thinking there was baby inside her?
Did her daughters know? Did Track? Her mother? And if not, then how could it have been avoided? They must have surely seen her when she wasn't wearing that cumberbun contraption. And we know she seldom wore the empathy belly.
I know, I know, she a psychopath...but are they all?
The mind boggles.

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 08:46:00 am

Google up Sarah Palin insane and you get 10,200,000 items on Google. I don't know how they find these figures, but it is good to know that enough people think she is insane to make it impossible for her to get elected.

The bots might be out there who actually believe she is what she positions herself in her facebook. That she is competent enough to be POTUS. I think she will completly disintergrate. She is held together with that old Alaskan standby, ducttape.

So she must have used ducttape for her smaller fake bellies (square pillow anyone?)

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lilly lily
8/2/2011 08:49:34 am

Oh, and for Sarah Palin crazy, it is even more.. 27,900,000 up 200,000 from the last time I looked.

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Ferry Fey
8/2/2011 09:05:19 am

Laura, do you have that software that shows which IPs are visiting your website?
That might be useful around now.

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Mhurka
8/2/2011 09:29:29 am

kmr-They all have genes in common.

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physicsmom
8/2/2011 10:04:18 am

Laura,
Thanks to you and Gryph and the alert commenter who found the photos. We need to spread the word around. The two pictures set side-by-side are so telling.

I went to purchase your book and realized it's not a "book" but an on-line site. Sorry, that won't do for these old eyes. Will it be available as a physical book or an ereader download? I'm ready to buy as soon as it's in a format I can read. Thanks.

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Leona
8/2/2011 10:07:08 am

Skeptics will ask why she would perpetrate such a hoax. Why, indeed.
(1) Because, at the time, her eldest daughter's reputation was hurting Sarah's image of herself, and
(2) Because Sarah thought she could turn a perceived negative (Bristol's reputation as an unwed pregnant teen) into something that would elevate Sarah to heroic status in the public's opinion (giving birth to a child with Down Syndrome while serving the people of Alaska as governor), and
(3) because the birth of a baby would distract the public from the myriad of problems, ethical, professional, and personal that were taking Sarah's governorship down very quickly.

Skeptics also might ask, why is any of this important anyway; it is utterly ridiculous to think that Sarah would fake her own pregnancy; why are all of you people wallowing in the mud about Sarah?
Well, it is important because:
(1) it illustrates the lengths Sarah would not only to protect her own image, but to elevate it,
(2) it exposes the pathological lying that is central to her personality, and
(3) it demonstrates the powerful grip she has used on people to achieve her own means, either through threats or through bribes.

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Laura Novak link
8/2/2011 10:28:05 am

Good analysis, Leona.

No one should have to suffer that kind of heat, Cracklin' Charlie. Thanks for your good thoughts through all of it!

And Yellow girl, I do not know the meaning behind the caption accompanying the photo. But I do know that the photographer took them. And I suspect that they have been on the Polaris sight for some time. There are many photos of her I'd not seen that you can find there.

And Physicsmom: FInding Clarity can be read on the iphone now, but that doesn't sound like that helps you!

Soon it will be on the ipad using that same app through Scribd. And I am trying to understand how to format my novel for Kindle. It's taking me a while. It's challenging and I got a bit "distracted" in the past few days.

Soon as I can, I'll have it on other e-readers.

Thank you though for caring and supporting me!

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Deb
8/2/2011 01:39:33 pm

It is no surprise that Patrick isn't giving credit for this story to either you or Gryphen. This behavior certainly strengthens previous accusations about him!

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HudsonElizabeth
8/2/2011 02:53:26 pm

Thanks for all you do, Laura. I have another suggestion/request: isn't there a photo taken after the Gusty one where she is again considerably less "round"? If so, would that be a good addition to the time line of photos-- to show the up and down of it all? Or, maybe better, the in and out of it all?

Also, Ella, thanks for the link to Getty Images. When the 2/10/08 photo was taken of Sarah and Todd at the race, with no sign of any belly, she had not yet "announced her pregnancy". That did not happen until early March, about 3 weeks later. So, at that time there would have been no "incentive" to deceive with any sort of padding. But, it does help make the point that if she had actually been pregnant, wouldn't she be showing at that point -- even if she had not yet announced?

And, finally there is another picture on Getty Images I found interesting. It is a picture taken on 4/18/08 of Todd and Sarah presenting their 5th child, who was born that same day. It is interesing because many have asked where are the pictures of baby Trig with mom and dad? Well, here is one. This is the first I recall seeing. And, if you go look you won't believe how together looking Sarah is. Her hair and make-up are impeccable and she is standing and smiling. If she just went through that wild ride in labor and gave birth how in H- - - could she have looked like that within hours of giving birth? You can find it here:
http://www.gettyimages.ie/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&assetType=image&family=Editorial&p=sarah+palin#102

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Ripley
8/2/2011 09:29:54 pm

The Gryphen/Novak conglomerate makes me happy. It's good to see you guys working so effectively and efficiently together. Hopefully, the whole world will know your names. Soon.

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Brad Scharlott
8/2/2011 11:00:08 pm

why now?

pics were posted on April 15 this year to a site where pro photogs sell their stuff -- and each picture had boilerplate underneath about
my paper and its revelations -- so the photographer saw an opportunity to make money -- but nobody among the Trig Truthers knew about the site or the pics

then a commenter mentioned the photos and provided the link at Grypghen's site - the "big shoulders" side pic of Palin from late March is at the site, the one that ran with O'Malley's Make.It.Stop. article -- so the Daily News knew about the photos

so why draw attention now? with Sept. 20 not too far away, the pics may have limited shelf life -- Mcginniss's book AND Levi's book both come out on Sept. 20 -- and did you see that McGinniss's publisher will NOT be sending out prepublication review copies because of explosive content

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JR
8/3/2011 12:01:03 am

Brad S - why now indeed! Is it an indication of the lack of knowledge out there that Sarah Palin faked her pregnancy? I guess it's safe to assume that people have not seen the "nail in the coffin" photo outside those who regularly follow the anti-Palin blogs. I cannot imagine the photographer not noticing that he had some corroborating evidence of the obviously padded belly if he had actually SEEN the museum photo with the young girl before the recent posting of his photos. Maybe the revelation was as recent as April.
It goes to show that the evidence that exists on Palins Deceptions and Palingates needs to be pushed out into the public eye - there are some incredible posts with excellent research that have never been viewed by folks outside the loop.

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Viola-Alex
8/3/2011 12:11:01 am

Thank you, Brad, for this explanation. I'm suspicious about everything (my age) and like to know as much provenance as possible. I can't get on the Polaris site. I tried registering to no avail. So one would have to be a registered member to have found the photos, unless I'm not doing something right.

However, I still think it interesting that the photographer referred to you in the caption, as if flagging down certain interest groups.

--

When I mentioned all this to my friend The Reporter, he said "She's done. Why aren't you going after Bachmann?" My reply to him is that unless Palin is taken down as the fraud she is with all the collusion behind her exposed, we run the risk of more Palin and more outright voter fraud from these powerful special interests. Exposing Palin helps expose Bachmann, and the forces behind them. It's cleaning out the wound properly.

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lilly lily
8/3/2011 12:20:11 am

Talking to someone this morning who is depressing herself by reading multiple books on the Holocast in Poland. And even today people deny it, say it never happened. Just as the bots and tea party people give Sarah Palin a pass on anything she does and close their eyes to her dark potential. She is ruthless in her ambitions.

Both of us agreed that the politicians now are a pitiful but dangerous bunch. Sarah is not the only dangerous one.

If Hitler had been stopped before he got into power with all his minions about him, I wonder how many innocent millions would have lived and not died.

Evil is always with us. We have to resist those who speak to the darker side of human nature.

Sarah Palin crossed onto the dark side long ago.

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DiOR
8/3/2011 12:27:40 am

HudsonE, yes, she is so put together in that picture that she is wearing earrings. If you click on the option to see similar images, one of the results is a closeup of Trig, also from 4/18. I don't remember seeing either of these before, although I'm not as familiar with all the materials as others who post here.

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lilly lily
8/3/2011 12:57:51 am

Deb. Patrick gives credit to both Laura and Gryphen.

Kathleen was the first person to find the March museum photo, the first Nail in the Coffin photo back at Palins Deceptions.

People should really stop trying to stir up trouble when everyone does get the credit due them.

Stop attacking Patrick.

I used to post a lot there, but got sick and tired of Disqus and the run around it gives in every way to posters, so I stopped and basically post here or at Joe McGinniss.

Regina, Patrick and Kathleen deserve a lot of credit. They have been in it for the long haul.

Andrew Sullivan has posted a bit about a woman in England who bloats up with gas after eating. Calls it the explaination for Trig.

I think laughing at Sarah Palin is all I can do, except for posting here.

The woman is abysmally ignorant and unfortunatly, still dangerous.

She will be laughed out of politics.

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Ennealogic link
8/3/2011 01:01:30 am

@Deb (Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:39:33)

If you read the current Politicalgates post dealing with the new images you'll find,

"The most important one of these new pictures can be viewed for example on Laura Novak's blog, who also posted some excellent commentary. The discovery of the pictures took place in public after a commenter left a link to the photo agency website on "The Immoral Minority" blog, which was then followed by posts on "The Immoral Minority" and on Laura Novak's blog."

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mistah charley, ph.d. link
8/3/2011 01:06:21 am

In a comment above, Deb says that "Patrick isn't giving credit for this story to either [Laura] or Gryphen. This behavior certainly strengthens previous accusations about him!"

This seems to contradicted by the most recent post by Patrick, which says in part, 'The most important one of these new pictures can be viewed for example on Laura Novak's blog, who also posted some excellent commentary. The discovery of the pictures took place in public after a commenter left a link to the photo agency website on "The Immoral Minority" blog, which was then followed by posts on "The Immoral Minority" and on Laura Novak's blog."'


http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2011/08/new-pictures-of-non-pregnant-sarah.html

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Melly
8/3/2011 01:07:53 am

HudsonEliz, that photo w/ Palin poking her finger into her newborn's face was Monday or Tuesday following his "birth." Anchorage office. don't know why it's labeled Apr 18, but that's why we have to document each and every picture so carefully.

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lilly lily
8/3/2011 01:19:22 am

The only prima donna in the Sarah Palin mess is Sarah Palin.

There is no reason for anyone to attack anyone.

We are all posting in this blog for one reason.

Truth and Justice.

And if I can get a few laughs out of "Sarah Palin, the whacked out Rogue Puppet", I will.

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Katie Taylor
8/3/2011 03:05:19 am

The caption that accompanies the photo with Sarah, Trig and Todd doesn't say the picture was taken on 4/18 but rather that Trig was born on 4/18. Am I reading the caption wrong? I believe the photo was cataloged with the wrong date. If I'm not Sarah looks better on the day she gave birth than in most of the other pictures I have seen of her.

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lilly lily
8/3/2011 03:24:35 am

After lunch I went into Andrew Sullivan blog. It is so refreshing.

He does note that her hairdresser in Wasilla at the Bee Hive now has her own reality show.

That tax incentive to filming in Alaska really is working.. Responsible for her crazy wigs??

Then on to the Phone Hacking by Murdochs papers. M.P. Watson who was targeted by two of Murdochs papers, and who won a award against them for their lies about him, is one of the investigators. M.P. Watson says the Phone Hacking is only a part of the scandal, there is a great deal more to come.

Of course that is in England.

Over here, we have a few of Murdochs N.Y. rags, plus Faux news. The WSJ??? still supporting Palin?

One can be certain that they, Murdoch and Ailes, have the goods on Sarah.

They use her as an attack dog, and then will throw her to the wolves as she becomes increasingly erratic.

Palin certainly looks like a woman under the influence of some substances, legal most likely, but which would disqualify her from running for office. Her flickering tongue action and half lidded eyes, fast talking word salads are getting worse.

Sarah Palin may have psychological and mental issues as we all know and discuss.

I can't understand why they keep her on the air. What purpose does she serve? Sarah Palin is unelectable. A fool, a bust, a failure there as everywhere else. Including faking a pregnancy. She remembered nothing from her previous pregnancies?

Babble on Sarah Palin. I think she must be very nervous and somewhat worried by now.

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V ictoria link
8/3/2011 03:29:21 am

@Viola-Alex: I agree, this story is important because it can be used to expose how much some interests lie to us and how complicit the MSM is.

But not enough people are demanding the truth. Why not? Do we need to picket Palin events? I admit that is not something I want to do, even if I could.

Which makes me want to give big thanks tto those who are dedicating far more to this cause. To Laura - running this blog, moderating the comments, and doing the research must be taking a toll. To Brad - not only for his expertise in arranging photos, but in going public back in the spring and bringing the issue forward in such a way to lend it credibility. Being related to several professors myself, I have an idea of how difficult life can be when you stir up controversy. A thank you, too, to Lidia and her magnificent videos.

And I know that there are many others who deserve gratitude, for their hard work over the years.

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Laura Novak link
8/3/2011 03:57:26 am

Thanks so much, Victoria. We ALL make a great team and it's been my absolute pleasure working with ALL of you!

V-A: I had no problem with Polaris. On the home page, you can use the Search to look for, say, SP, March 2006. To buy, the register page should work and/or then call the NYC office directly.

Do people need me to post that number? Is it not on the site? Or not available for some reason?

And thank you so much again to those who are buying Finding Clarity. I really can't tell you how much that means to me. Thank you!

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notafaux
8/3/2011 04:18:08 am

@lily lilly, @ennealogic, @mistah charley, ph.d:

Thank you for the push-back to the comments at @Deb. I think many of us long ago became weary of intra-blog grenade hurling, the sole purpose of which is to stir up resentments and petty rivalries. To my mind, such tactics have severely thwarted productive efforts among like-minded people whose goal is to expose the damage Sarah Palin has inflicted--and in fact continues to inflict--upon our national discourse.

There's room for everyone, old-timers and newcomers alike, in this discussion, which has been going on for nearly three years. As you all pointed out, Patrick and Kathleen have acknowledged this fact by citing the good work done by Laura and Gryphen.

I'll note further that what might look to some like an attempt to claim sole credit or seek glory, might simply amount to stating for the record the identity of a source. This is the first task of every responsible researcher.

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DiOR
8/3/2011 04:52:27 am

If you read the comments on Patrick's site, it appears that he added the info about the previous posting on Laura's and Gryphen's sites after he found out about it from another comment. When Deb looked, I'm guessing that paragraph wasn't there yet. Patrick explained why he didn't know about everything when he first posted.

IOW, everybody's right. Nothing to see here. Move along. :)

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Molly
8/3/2011 04:57:12 am

@notafaux,
Well said. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

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Melly
8/3/2011 05:02:29 am

??????????

Why must she be wearing something surgically related under there? I disagree completely, especially with doc's theory and with liposuction. We know she's capable of using a [square] pillow, and something bigger for the Apr 13 Gusty photo. I think this is some other benign piece of equipment.

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Brad Scharlott
8/3/2011 05:12:32 am

It's theoretically possible that Elvis's seed was frozen and later was used to fertilize Palin's ovum. Or what about Ronald Reagan's? The possibilities are endless.

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lilly lily
8/3/2011 05:25:39 am

I have had an interaction at Joe McGinniss with a woman is a whole hearted Palin supporter.

I gave her a bit of valuable advice though I doubt she will take it. Namely to step back and reconsider her blind devotion to Sarah Palin.

At least I tried. I'm sure she is a fine woman in her real life.

Actually the anti-Palin people I have inter-acted with on these blogs are quite intelligent people, and I doubt that anyone will manage to sow discord.

The golden apple, that is recognition for effort.

Most of us don't expect any recognition, and are content to add a bit here and there along the way.

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lilly lily
8/3/2011 05:58:40 am

About her attempt at a unigue sqare pregnancy.

I must admit I have been getting a kick out of researching faked pregnancies.

Usually it is a faked I'm pregnant, pregnancy stick test waved in front of a reluctant male three days after sex and being dumped. (The situations people get into. It takes longer than that to have a positive test.)

You can make a pregancy belly out of bike helmet under a tube top secured by some maternity pants and a oversized bra. This site gave advice on how to waddle like a pregnant woman, walk with your legs spread, sit ditto, sway your back etc.

Didn't someones daughter in Australia sew one up to show a home made version?

I have had disc and sacroiliac issues, and when it bothers me I use a waist belt with rectangular air activated heat pads that you slip into pockets in the waist belt with sticky ends which keep the pads in place. Reverse back to front with old used air heating pads and viola, a square stomach kept neatly in place. Or a few wash clothes folded around the pads will do for a more prominent bump.

The variations are endless, and with someone as inventive as Sarah I'm sure we will be astonished when we learn what she used besides floating scarves.

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Viola-Alex
8/3/2011 06:08:29 am

Thank you, Doc, for pronouncing SP not visibly pregnant. However, you give her far too much credit, imo, as to another procedure. Those are just couch cushions gerryrigged with an ace bandage and a Depends (or a hernia truss) because SP's too cheap to do this thing first class. After all, she's smarter than any of us, including you.

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B
8/3/2011 06:18:01 am

Laura, remind Doc it the picture was a mere 3 weeks, not 4, before she claimed to deliver a 6+ pound baby.

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lilly lily
8/3/2011 06:53:43 am

Sarah Palins cheap gene means she jerryrigged something, nothing bought or riskily ordered on the net.

I can imagine her sniggering at her own cleverness while making her ducttaped experimental pregnancy, like her inexpensive Walmart floating scarves and wearing winter outerwear indoors through meetings etc. One maternity type outfit for the Gusty shot and the Governors conferences in Washington and Texas.

I looked into her followers posting of recent pictures in Alaska. One in a tacky oversized grey shirt cuddling Trig. Another in her silver raincoat and black slacks again cuddling a vivacious Trig. She is piling on the homey "me and Trig" pictures to her supporters to show her as a devoted mother to Trig.

Happy, happy family photos for the loyal bots.

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rubbernecking
8/3/2011 07:01:52 am

Low-rent pregnancy pillow? Plausible.

Adopting your daughter's kid so you can force her to rear your surrogate in the cover-up? Oy vey.

My head hurts.

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jk
8/3/2011 07:26:32 am

The suggestion of trans-abdominal egg retrieval does seem pretty far out there, and where the Palins are concerned I'm no slouch in the tinfoil-hat department. The photo was taken during the time when Palin was doing her half-a$$ed Bree Palin act (no offense to "our" Bree Palin!), which at varying times seemed to involve varying technologies: pillows, multiple bulky sweaters, tacky outdoor jackets worn indoor with scarves, etc. Surely the padding in these new photos is, as others have suggested, just one more jerryrigged effort. (I think she did splash out for a real empathy belly at some point -- my guess is that 1) it took a while to show up, and 2) she couldn't be bothered to wear it because it wasn't comfortable.)

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HudsonElizabeth
8/3/2011 08:01:10 am

Melly, Katie Taylor -- thanks for your comments and questions about the April 18, 2008 date on the picture of Sarah and Todd with Trig from Getty Images. Before posting it I had tried really hard to figure out if it meant only the day he was born, and it seemed to me to be saying it was the day he was born but also the date the picture was taken. So, I went back and found it, and clicked to enlarge it and then to read more... Here is the image that came up:
http://www.gettyimages.ie/detail/112896915/McClatchy-Tribune

Under the image is a lot of info, including the text/caption that explains that Trig was born on 34/18/08. But, below that it says "Date created: 18 Apr 2008" So, that would seem to me to indicate that it may have been taken earlier, but not later. That is, how could it be "created" -- whatever that means -- on the 18th of April if it not been taken that day or earlier? But, I may be mis-interpreting. I hope not, though.

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wink
8/3/2011 08:19:46 am

The only way she could be pregnant in this photo is if she is carrying a baby up in her ribcage. Then she would not be able to breathe, and she would faint. Happens sometimes for women with short torsos, but they still look pregnant. I have never, ever seen a pregnant woman with no pregnancy showing below the waist. Her body simply looks bizarre based on her claims.

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curiouser
8/3/2011 09:05:25 am

Thanks Laura, Brad, and Doc! The mind reels!

I wonder if she was wearing a maternity support belt to hold 'whatever' in place. She may also have hi-waist spanx on underneath. Here's a maternity belt that looks like it would create a square in the center:

http://tinyurl.com/3lbkv8n

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Melly
8/3/2011 09:17:39 am

Curiouser....Bingo on the belt.

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MicMac
8/3/2011 01:22:50 pm

lilly lily: What she said.

Having followed/contributed to the SP pregnancy hoax from early Sept 2008 on, and witnessed the (somewhat) petulant nepotism of the blogger wars over the years, may I add this?

There has been a great improvement over the last year among all parties regarding attribution of sources, and general respect, as imperfect as some would still have it be. Mostly, I am guessing, a reaction to the demise of early bloggers and their difficulties in bringing the pregnancy hoax to light, the split between Palingates and Politicalgates (constructively resolved) and the very public complaints intra-alia about bloggers not properly giving credit where credit is due. I think all parties are more sensitive and doing better (as best they can) on all counts, because we are afraid of the alternative(loss) if we don't toe the line.

My take on the earlier years (the bitterness of which is still expressed from time to time) is that we were all caught up in such frenzy to expose Palin, turning over every stone sometimes within the same minute or hour of any other poster of blogger, within the crush of hundred poster/blogger threads within short periods of time. . .that egos were crushed and embittered, naturally. ("I was the first!" Um, well, MANY were in some cases.) Or bloggers' fingers typing were not fast enough to beat the next fresh source.

This is important because so many of us, bloggers and posters alike, have sacrificed untold hours of our lives to participate on these boards, toward the Take Palin Down Syndrome. (Sorry, bad pun.) We all feel, well, "entitled."

Also, too. In the hurly burly to make the finish line or just get the next best thing out there to defeat Sarah Palin, basic journalistic standards were overridden because, well, the blogosphere is NOT journalism. To expect anything different might be understandable, emotionally, but not logical or supportable. It's an everything goes platform; to expect something different would be to wish the internet was something different, supervised, constricted and not as freewheeling as it is. It is this very character of the internet that has allowed us to expose Sarah to the extent we have. Two sided coin.

I see both sides. The important thing here was always supposed to be exposing the truth about Sarah Palin. The good news is that, whenever we have all found ourselves sinking into the pit, it seems to me that most here rise to the occasion and remember why we are here and what is at stake, putting ourselves second against the fate of our country and the basic values we all hold dear.

Soggy enough for you? If not, I have a bowl of old oatmeal I can sell you. . .yeah, I really believe this stuff. The overall good, activist citizenship of these boards, quite sturdy, enduring, to my mind and I appreciate you all, in your perfection and imperfection.

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Ottoline
8/3/2011 01:59:13 pm

So glad the Doc agrees that you have to show in week 32 of a pregnancy.

But where does the idea that she had "a procedure" come from? No indication of that whatsoever. A commenter suggested that the band around SP's midsection looked like something recycled from a surgical procedure. I have a drawerful of such leftover items, plus 12"-tall back-support velcro belts, hospital pads, Ace bandages, and more -- from various hospitalizations of family members; all this stuff seemed too good to toss. She might have used similar stuff, but that in no way suggests she had a procedure at that time. She might have, but we have zero reason to think so. And what difference would it make if she had or hadn't? It wouldn't PROVE anything either way.

And who cares about the exact composition of that fake belly?

But the egg-retrieval is truly nonsense to me. Retrieve the eggs of a 40+-yr-old woman? Most women with assisted pregnancies start by retrieving their eggs but end up using an egg donor because 40-yr-old eggs don't work that well. What part of that "makes sense" to the Doc?

But again, so what? This kind of speculation is waaaay too detailed and iffy to matter to anyone in terms of exposing the hoax, which is the (seemingly simple! but not so, as we have found) issue of SP lying about being pregnant.

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FrostyAK
8/3/2011 02:54:37 pm

Good grab on the belt, if she turned it backward.

They make "heating pad" type devices with a tube of stretchy material that ties in back, with a removable microwavable pouch. If they make one that size, that could be the jerry-rigged belly as well.

Freezing her eggs for posterity? Say it ain't so, Doc!

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Lidia17
8/3/2011 06:45:57 pm

Why muddy the waters with ridiculous talk of "trans-abdominal egg retrieval"!?!?

The woman was 44! Definitely past the 'sell-by' date, wouldn't you say?

I suggest we stick to the simplest—DEMONSTRABLE—version of events: Sarah put some kind of Ace bandages or whatever other wadding around herself in order to look somewhat pg for a few weeks before suddenly going "full Gusty".

That's all that matters.

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blueberrync
8/4/2011 12:36:55 am

I think she had lypo. She felt she could hid the bandage because she was supposed to look bigger and that made it a good time to do some nip and tuck.
After that went so well she started on reconstructing her face.

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Dana
8/4/2011 03:15:25 am

There is no disputing this. Sarah is not Trig's mother. It is likely Bristol's. Now, even more interesting would be to find out who the father is!

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nancydrewed
8/4/2011 03:57:23 am

A new poster has been created regarding the 'pregnancy'---going viral folks.

http://twitpic.com/60pn6e

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V ictoria link
8/4/2011 05:04:05 am

I'm glad the doc agrees with us that the expansion in 2.5 weeks is impossible.

But that is nonsense about the eggs. Absolute nonsense. A procedure like that requires several visits to the doctor - and for what? One that increases the risk of discovery?

Let's just stick with the fact that Palin didn't give birth in April 2008. And she was probably using an old bandage - and you can wear a bandage without being injured - instead of theorizing that she had liposuction at the time either. I mean, if she was pretending to be pregnant she would hardly risk being seen in the flesh by additional people, would she?

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Punkinbugg
8/4/2011 05:19:26 am

Methinks the good doctor, after confirming that there is no fetus under that coat, went on to have a bit of fun at our expense. :)

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V ictoria link
8/4/2011 05:29:25 am

@punkinbugg - you may be right and that the latter part of the doctor's message was snark. Humor is sometimes hard to discern over the internet.

The doctor may not realize how many hours have been put into unveiling the hoax perpetrated by this grifter, and how seriously we take it. But I think the latter part makes it hard to take the former part seriously.

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mary
8/4/2011 05:33:36 am

I have to agree with Lidia17. Sarah Palin faked a pregnancy and did a really crappy job of it. She stuffed *something* under her shirt and called it good. Why anyone thinks that she must've had liposuction or any surgical procedure in order to be in possession of ace bandages or some sort of stretchy belt, padding, whatever, is beyond me. Im sure Alaska has CVS stores.

And with all due respect to the doctor, the idea that the eggs of a 44-year-old were harvested to impregnate her teenage daughter is completely insane. And yeah, I know that Palin is insane, but even she is not THAT insane.

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RF
8/4/2011 09:29:03 am

nancydrewed:

NOT a good link friend.

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mary
8/4/2011 11:25:38 am

@RF, the link nancydrewed posted works for me.

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MicMac
8/4/2011 01:44:36 pm

Re: Mary.

Frankly, Nancy Drew and The Secret of the Old Clock has sustained me throughout my lifetime, and I can only hope, the life hereafter.

And I am a practicing Christian. Still, I regard the stories of Nancy Drew as a kind of midrash of young white Goyim/Gentile girls reading in whatever garret/bedroom they might inhabit. Real life, every day expositions of what it means to dedicate your life to sussing out the truth, no matter who you are, or what your age or gender.

My suspicion is that most of us posters here of a certain age, still quaff the spirit of (or suck the bus vapors of ) Nancy Drew. She was sharp. She was very young. But she totally busted the crimes committed by persons older than herself, yet she remained young.

(Counterpoint to Miss Marple.)

Her boyfriend (Ned?) was not as sharp or as committed as she was, but he drove a sexy car and he never asked questions, just showed up whenever she needed him, intrigued, interested in her quests. Cool guy. Totally husband/feminist supportive material.

Not that Nancy Drew fully understood this or cared, at the time.

But she would have made a uranium grade poster against Sarah Palin. Palin stands no chance against any old Nancy Drew.

Nancy Drews. A lot like Us.

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Exp:Nov05/08
8/4/2011 08:23:34 pm

She is insane, but I can't give SP any more credit for her madness than I already have!
It's enough that she risked faking the pregnancy so publicly, continued to talk and write about it as if it really happened, and hasn't threatened every blogger who sees through her phony birth mother act with a screamingly public lawsuit. Her high public profile makes all that pretty crazy to me. But not as crazy as her bothering to harvest her own eggs!
No disrespect, Doc, and maybe you're joking, but I agree with all who say it's way too much work for her. She stuffed herself with whatever was handy, similar to Bristol's overnight terrycloth double D cups. And even THAT was after many months of stuffing practice... and was still insane looking.
Stuffing oneself with socks and rags and toilet paper and bandages seems a habit typically reserved for the teenaged, and the seriously mentally ill. Maybe that's an unfair generalization. A push-up bra is one thing. A square belly or a sofa-sized uniboob are another thing entirely. Normal, clear-minded folks can hardly comprehend that a grown woman, who seemed functional enough to run an entire state, acts this teenaged, AND is seriously this mentally ill. But, here we are.
Great work going on here. Thanks for your diligence, Laura! Great work, everyone!

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Ahgoo
8/5/2011 01:03:59 am

With ya Lidia17 and Mary. She did a lazy and poor job at faking. Almost as if she was making it up as she went along. Some mentioned Spanx Power Mama and that works until the gutsy garb arrived.

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Dis Gusted
8/7/2011 05:39:57 am

interesting about the eggs and the timing. Didn't Shaleigh Tripp refer to herself as an incubator?

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lilly lily
8/10/2011 12:32:18 am

Well now we know about the liposuction. Whatever kind she had. Lipotherme, Laser lipo or whatever. Only the recipent and the operator are the wiser.

http://shesnohockeymom. blogspot.com has the paperwork in Sarah's Scandals.

More and more nails in her political coffin. No pregnancy, states that much and she could have not had such a proceedure if pregnant.

Goes to get therapy for the pain on 3/4--08? and the damning pictures are a few weeks later.

GTH Sarah Palin. And it is about time this stuff came out and is in the lame stream media. It is pertinent, it is timely, and the woman is a loose cannon causing as much trouble as she can for our country.

Let her be exposed for what she is.

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