This Just In...

8/21/2011

I just got a tip that this interesting compilation is sitting over at Scribd.

I have no idea who MagicWishMonkey is. I can see he or she has no followers, is following no one and has only one upload. And it is this odd compilation about Sarah Heath including DMV records, SAT scores, high school grades, and IQ results. Allegedly.

We looked recently at the college record of Rick Perry posted on Scribd by Huffington Post. So, take a look at this document and tell us what you see.

Is it real? Have you seen it before? If not, why now? And why did Miss Heath get a D in Foreign Language?

With that 2.2 GPA I'm sure they all saw a future POTUS in their midst.

H/T faithful reader.

58 Comments

8/21/2011 11:56:12

WOW! Did I read that right? Her IQ is 83???

8/21/2011 12:02:46

That 2.2 GPA seems to be for one reporting period, not for four years. Also, it says "self reported," doesn't it?

I don't think the IQ report is hers. I believe her IQ could be 100 but not 82. And I don't think a high school would do an IQ test on someone about to graduate. They do those to help place students in classes, not after the fact.

So, imo, only some of this info is correct.

leva

8/21/2011 12:05:13

2.2 GPA in high school is not bad for a person with an IQ of 83

Caitlyn

8/21/2011 12:05:22

Some of it looks legitimate, but at the same time, I don't buy an IQ of 83. I do think she's not the brightest bulb in the world, but 83 seems pretty low.

Leona

8/21/2011 12:07:02

From now on, I calling her 83.

Leona

8/21/2011 12:07:59

Sorry for the typo:
From now on, I'm calling her 83.

Julia Brown

8/21/2011 12:12:53

I'm far more astonished by that abysmal showing on the SAT - 841. 841? That's horrible.

This was taken, of course, before the recent adjustment in scores and the additional of the third (writing) section.

I took it around the same time. The joke was that they gave you 400 (on each section, so 800 total) for writing your name. While a bit of an exaggeration, this is a woefully poor score.

And this woman even might have been V.P? I feel myself getting ill.

dixie-chik link

8/21/2011 12:33:31

IQ of 83 and GPA of 2.2 does not compute. Other stuff seems to be a matter of public record.

Melly

8/21/2011 12:48:19

IQ of 83, no wonder she's barely educable. So this meticulous, I mean unvelievably meticulous record, from mayorship to gubernatorial campaign, just appears on Scribd? Sounds like someone's convinced she's running and put the record out there.

Laura Novak link

8/21/2011 12:50:57

It is an unusual compilation. I'm trying to see a thread through the articles linked at the bottom as well.

Thanks for weighing in. I'm logging off for the night. Please leave your comments and I will approve very early in the morning. And we'll take it from there!

Thanks everyone!

sunnyskies

8/21/2011 12:53:43

Whoever put this post together did a lot of research with the Frontiersman re: criticism on Palin's tenure as Mayor of Wasilla. Considering all the negatives, why aren't the people of Wasilla speaking out now?

Nothing in this post surprises me, including her 2.2 GPA and her IQ of 83. I have thought for some time now that Sarah Palin has dyslexia, and this affliction was never treated. It would explain her inability to form complete sentences, and her disdain for education.

mxm

8/21/2011 12:57:45

I do remember that during the 2008 campaign, there was an IQ report circulating that was debunked.

Angiemomma

8/21/2011 13:00:30

From my time testing students for Special Education designation, I believe that any IQ score below 85 was considered to be mental retardation. I'm not kidding.

Kristen

8/21/2011 13:01:11

I remember reading this during the election. It's not new.

I don't believe it is real...I'm a teacher, and if she had an IQ of 83, she would not be functioning enough to graduate from college.

OzMud link

8/21/2011 13:12:36

I wrote about this .pdf file with the IQ score of 83 in December of 2008:

http://ozmud.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/sarah-palin-not-the-peoples-choice-part-6-iq-anyone/

The .pdf file vanished shortly after and the commentor who sent me the link (DarleneMB) never replied to my inquiries.

As written before, the low IQ would explain so many things - including and especially her need to be cuccooned amongst only those most trusted family and friends, her obvious inability to grasp the most basic of political concepts - and her visible anger towards those who don't just accept what she says without question.

I'm so glad the .pdf has surfaced again...

Ottoline

8/21/2011 13:19:04

The SAT scores form is a fake -- it was debunked some time ago. I'll go look for a link.

Ottoline

8/21/2011 13:26:44

Here's DailyKos debunking it, although their illustrative graphic is missing:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/11/71941/717/207/627300

Snopes also debunked it:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/reportcard.asp

Here's Gawker:

http://gawker.com/5062871/sarah-palins-sat-scores-actually-belong-to-born+again-virgin-dawn-eden

Anyone who has been following this whole sad saga would remember the SAT hoax, and therefore the other docs posted here also seem suspect.

omomma link

8/21/2011 13:38:18

Well she certainly hasn't presnted herself as someone of normal intelligence--83 does seem a bit low. But that could explain her inability to form and speak complete thoughts.

orangetriangle link

8/21/2011 13:40:05

The SAT score report was determined to be false on Snopes. It originally surfaced during the 2008 election. I don't know about the other documents.

DiAnne link

8/21/2011 14:11:49

I'm not so sure about the I.Q. test score or the SAT score. Certainly the Frontiersman info is verifiable and rings true. For those who have followed since day one, this is quite a little packet of information though. Let's see where this goes...hmmmmm. Unless I could prove that all this info is incorrect, then I wouldn't open my life up any more to run as a Presidential candidate. But I'm not Sarah Palin.

We live in the information age and Sarah Palin has been playing with fire since she came into view...I think it's time she disappeared from public view. But I'm not Sarah Palin.

Rationalist

8/21/2011 14:27:26

Looks like a summary of "opposition research" that someone posted online.

Ivyfree

8/21/2011 15:12:58

The 83 IQ score: I know that sounds weird. She's dense, but not that dense.

I keep going back to my belief that Sarah has a learning disability, which we knew a lot less about back in her high school days. Small town. Low budget. There's no financial incentive for finding another kid with special needs. And hell, she's Chuck's kid- who wants to tell a teacher that his kid has problems? But yanno? When you put a kid with a learning disability down in front of an IQ test, they aren't going to test well. She might have a reading comprehension thing. (I have a nephew who can't read letters. He reads hieroglyphs. Literally, he reads pictures. He can take dictation in his own invented hieroglyphs and read it back accurately- but he can't do it with the alphabet and written English. His brain doesn't process language that way. And incidentally, he has a career making high-end guitars and written English isn't required.)

Anyway, I think Sarah is averagely bright but learning-disabled and undoubtedly tests poorly, which is also why she dropped out of so many colleges until she got into one where her sister and brother were attending. I wonder if they helped her with her work?

I've never seen a report card that says, "Foreign Language." I've always seen them with "French" or "Spanish" or "Japanese." Not "Foreign Language." Anyway, you put a kid with a learning disability, maybe language-processing skills- which the gods know, she fails at- into a foreign language class, and she's only going to do well at the part about remembering what's been said in class, not about anything in writing.

Sarah scrambles language. We all know it, we've all tried to make sense of her attempts at communication. She can sell her personality with a speech on her good days; on her bad days, she's simply incoherent.

It would explain a lot. It would explain having somebody text and tweet for her, and look up things on the Google. It would explain those SAT scores. It would explain why she shut down when the McCain staffers tried to teach her things. When she was younger and more adaptable, she was able to conceal it more effectively, but as she's aged, and undergone more stress, she's decompensated.

I've thought for a long time that she has a learning disability. I also think she has a personality disorder and bipolar traits. The learning disability is my take on her overall ignorance, which is shocking- ringing that bell to tell the British we were coming, indeed!- and the bipolar disorder I've believed for a couple of years, after I noticed how she'd appear in the news and disappear and how cyclic it was. The personality disorder thing I'm basing on her open lying. No, seriously- she's lied in speeches about where Trig was born and what city, and the whole Trig story is a majorly important lie to her- she should be able to keep the alleged location of his birth, along with his gestational age, in mind. But she can't, and she doesn't try, and it doesn't appear to bother her. It's like "Lie" is her default setting.

Juneauite

8/21/2011 16:11:41

Interesting.

Part of it looks like it was taken from the vetting document the Democrats (Alaska Democratic Party?) did on her in 2006. Here's a link to it from the Mudflat's blog:

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/palin-vetting-documents-from-2006-for-hard-core-palin-addicts-only/

There is a received stamp on the first page of 6-24-03 yet there is no mention of Piper being born so it appears part of it was done prior to 2001, maybe the first two pages.It mentions her being on the Wasilla city council but not mayor. I'm curious to know why someone would want to do a background report on her back then.

diz

8/21/2011 16:26:04

I saw the report card on another website last week and it was described as a fake, someone using another person's actual record substituted some of $P's info. Don't recall the website but I'm sure it was seen by others who have a better memory than I.

physicsmom

8/21/2011 16:39:29

I think this is mainly false. It appears to be part of a dossier assembled by the McCain campaign (or someone) of her history, however, some of the items don't ring true. The final confirmation for me was the supposed quote from her at the youth seminar where she talks about the age of the earth and dinosaurs and says the Bible is as exciting as Harry Potter. The quote is cited from 1996, however Harry Potter wasn't published until 1997. Therefore, I think it's mainly a hoax. Some of the ADN articles are legit, but others are truly questionable.

comeonpeople

8/21/2011 21:13:16

I have no links to back this up, but the 83 IQ has been around awhile. Even the first year of Sarah fame...but I don't remember if it was debunked or not. I believe it is true, she may be a crappy test taker. I believe the SAT scores. Sarah has many mental disorders and probably a learning disability also too. Back then they were not picked up and many kids were pushed along rather than they got the help they needed. That is a shame for her in a way. Her illnesses and weaknesses have been enabled, or even lauded all her life....of course she thinks she can be queen of the forrest. She is due for some serious congnitive dissonance when all her gates are revealed. Not that i am feeling sorry for her or anything....

WakeUpAmerica

8/21/2011 21:55:42

It's interesting that the school record shows expected years of study as 5 for English . I'm guessing that means she failed a year (only 1? LOL). Also, it says total expected years of study as 17. It should be 12 or 13 if you count kindergarten. Perhaps they added in 4 years for college.

Dis Gusted

8/21/2011 22:29:28

I've heard that SP was borderline retarded. So the 83 makes perfect sense.

I have always suspected that she barely passed school and doubt she has a diploma unless it's an Associates Degree.

The only one to claim she was a straight A student was Chuckles and he lies. Then again, maybe she had special classes and papers so she was allowed to pass.

Jane in NC

8/21/2011 23:04:23

Based on a Google Search for

"Raised Catholic (Chuck and Sally)"

this document has been circulating since at least October 1988:

www.slideshare.net/mensa25/sarah-palin-stats-presentation

issuu.com/defcomben/docs/sarah-palin-report

www.deal-today.net/blog/9bc82f2f3d0eff2de052806779fa11a8.txt

www.tennis4you.com

Freddy el Desfibradddor

8/21/2011 23:04:48

This is intentionally false information, in my opinion.

Jane in NC

8/21/2011 23:23:24

"IQ 83" by Arthur Herzog

Coincidence?

"First published in 1978, Arthur Herzog's prophetic and nightmarish thriller IQ 83 raises the hard social, moral, and political questions that are only now coming to the forefront of society’s concern. While working on a cure for mental retardation a research team makes a mistake in gene splicing and unleashes an epidemic of "stupid sickness." The scientists and their families are affected first, but the virus soon spreads to the general population, causing a reduction in the national average IQ to 83. As his own IQ steadily drops, lead scientist Jim Healey races to find an antidote to the menace before his own mental deterioration is complete. The picture of a stratified society where IQ is the only important measure of a human's worth is unsettling, and the book's premise of a genetic experiment that runs amok is more relevant now than ever."

http://www.electronpress.com/excerpts/iq83exc.htm

Marthe L.

8/21/2011 23:31:41

Unfortunately, this is a hoax according to the website Snopes. However, judging from her "word salads", her inability to answer simple questions and her lack of general knowledge and culture, I bet her real school transcripts are not much better than those of the hoax.

fig

8/21/2011 23:36:46

The SAT scores have been thoroughly debunked already.

http://gawker.com/5061283/sarah-palins-high+school-grades

http://gawker.com/5062871/sarah-palins-fake-sat-scores-forged-from-born+again-virgin-dawn-eden

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/10/14/update-sarah-palin-grades-are-a-forgery-and-the-aftermath.aspx

8/21/2011 23:39:20

it makes no sense. A background report with a receipt date from mid 2003, when she'd been on the oil & gas commission for several months thus presumably wanting her screened. Based on her bio she doesn't seem to have been running for any office, so no one digging up dirt. The report contains vehicle information for vehicles manufactured and registered in 2004 and 2005. Photos from her high school yearbook, but no photos of her as mayor, candidate for lt governor, or being named to oil & gas commission.

I'm going with a fake created by someone trying to embarrass her.

Leona

8/21/2011 23:52:34

A friend of mine suggested that if you view 83 sideways, you come up with a pretty good image of the woman.

Allie

8/22/2011 01:00:55

If I remember correctly, one hallmark of dyslexia is reversal. Adjacent letters and numbers reversed, but I think there is also a form in which phrases or concepts can be reversed or confused about the order they go. When speaking contemporaneously, she does this all the time. Also, you can watch her attempting to be very careful with certain statements, when her speech slows down and she starts stuttering or repeating herself. It is then that you can notice that she is aware she is walking a verbal minefield trying to get it out straight. I think Viola's journalist friend was alluding to the way she combines possible or outright falsehoods with garbled and/or reversed words, numbers, phrases or concepts that makes it so very difficult to interview her or challenge the veracity of her statements or even what the hell she meant. "What do you read?" "Oh, all of them." A lie or an attempt to avoid tripping up over the names of publications? or both?

Bush 43 was dyslexic, too. Who can forget those painful moments as he tries to remember, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me," which very slowly came out, "Fool me once, shame on you; ... you can't get fooled again." Huh?

Then of course, there is Rick Perry who says 'treacherous' before he corrects himself and says 'treasonous'.

pollyinak

8/22/2011 01:07:11

Even if this is correct, 83, I believe stands for a national percentage, not IQ!! :-)

The news articles posted are correct.

SCmommy

8/22/2011 01:25:39

I know the SAT scores look questionable, and were debunked by snopes, etc. But Snopes makes no mention of the graph that is included in this report in their explanation of Ms. Eden's photoshopped SAT.

So what's up with that?? I would think the graph would be more difficult to photoshop, and I don't remember it being mentioned in the "debunking," so is the graph real or part of the prank?

How very interesting that this shows up all of a sudden.

Remember that Nicolle Wallace said that if she runs, the truth will come out. Interesting....

Laura Novak link

8/22/2011 01:31:51

I recall that certain places debunked parts of this. But given how the Gusty photo was "debunked", debunkers now don't hold much water for me.

More importantly for me, it is the 1) compilation of these disparate elements that I find interesting and 2) the upload itself.

I'm one of the most widely read women on Scribd. I know that community very well. Yes, there are those who upload a document or two. But for the most part, people have identities, followers and they follow others.

Someone put this up there - someone who has been on Scribd since 2008 - for some reason right now.

It's worth looking at. I wonder why it was put together the way it is, and why now.

V ictoria link

8/22/2011 02:20:05

Because it was on Scribd, I have to feel that it was directed at you, Laura. But since the person did not contact you directly I would be very wary.

lilly lilly

8/22/2011 02:33:00

People are posting bits for Laura and others to find.

Look at that photo of a flat Sarah Palin swinging through the Museum door. It was there all along and unnoticed. Though Audry had one with the child a long time ago.

Someone found it, or had it all along.

Ditto the form from the Massage therapist at Shesnohockymom.

So much is contrived. Though I haven't gone into the Rogue blog and all the brou ha ha there, a bit of controversy to whip up interest. Who cares? A load of the usual internet nonsense.

Spin, so much is spin. Always was and always will be.

I don't give Sarah Palin much credit for book smarts, but cunning? Manipulation? She is off the charts.

Ivyfree

8/22/2011 02:37:30

"if she had an IQ of 83, she would not be functioning enough to graduate from college."

We actually don't know for certain that she did. It's questionable whether she could have achieved the required credits in the time she spent in college, given actual time "in" college, and less likely given the numerous transfers. Colleges typically don't accept all transfer credits.

jeff

8/22/2011 02:41:08

molly malone

8/22/2011 02:59:14

I googled "sarah palin 2006 vetting" (2006 appears to be the last dates in the compilation) and came up with bunches of hits, so I suspect that much of that info came from the Dems' 63 pages of oppo research.

As for Palin's H.S. academic records--I find these highly questionable. Yes, IQ test results, SAT scores and grades are part of a student's permanent record, but that information is locked away pretty darn solidly (a rigid rule for which many of us who partied our way through high school should be extremely grateful).

Admittedly, for a large enough bribe it would probably be possible to access that info, but if this were the case then why settle for IQ and SAT scores and a partial transcript? There is a lot of information in students' permanent records. Why use so little of it? For me, the academic portion of the compilation doesn't pass the smell test. It contains both too much and too little information.

MicMac

8/22/2011 03:22:37

Googling "MagicWishMonkey" comes up with some interesting hits. Perhaps you can track him/her down this way.

BAustin

8/22/2011 03:25:19

As we all know...Sarah doesn't believe in coincidences.

MagicWishMonkey became a Scrbd member and posted this file on Oct 10, 2008...google the date and palins name. Hello troopergate.

Curious, no?

anonfornow

8/22/2011 03:34:08

Notice they said she "dropped out" of all those colleges. "Dropped out" to me means withdrawing from classes without a grade, but I guess it can also mean not going back for the next semester. An interesting way to look at her college career--she dropped out of five colleges vs. she attended five. Yes, I know the bots like to spin it that she was dropping out because she was paying her way through school with difficulty, which is ridiculous: people struggling financially don't shell out hefty airfares to go out of state.

I'm with you, Laura: the naive acceptance of the Gusty photo as "proof" of Sarah's pregnancy has left me profoundly skeptical of the famous debunking sites. If Sarah had a learning disability, her high school might well have sent her for an IQ test and, depending on the skill of the tester, that learning disability could have resulted in a very low score. I have a friend whose child was sent for an IQ test and scored fairly low (115). The child is brilliant (now has a PhD); it was eventually discovered he'd been successfully hiding a significant hearing impairment. So IQ tests can be skewed by disabilities if the tester isn't well trained (and this is Wasilla we're talking about).

Not that I think Sarah is brilliant, only that she's not borderline retarded. An untreated learning disability would prevent her from ever learning much of anything and would help explain the jaw-dropping ignorance she has displayed time and time again.

But I would also like to point out that we do know she can read because we have seen her time after time reading off a teleprompter without difficulty.

jeff

8/22/2011 03:42:27

I dunno, Laura.

Like you said, with Sarah, NOTHING is ever REALLY debunked.

Forged/False Docs? Now, if Karl Rove was on Sarah's team, she would've already leaked several "forged documents" to investigative journalists like yourself in order to "debunk" the authenticity of the reports, even if the content was true, a la Dan Rather and Shrub's AF Reserve papers (Memogate, Killian Papers).

I would imagine that Sarah would thoroughly enjoy using something she had planted to show up anyone from the media that took something at face value and ran with it in order to bring her down a notch.

I'm so glad you reported the info in a professional manner in the way you did with disclaimers, qualifiers, etc. Not that I would expect anything less from you, anyway. Just my thinking here, but I believe if my IQ were 82 and I wanted whomever was researching my academic performance to be ridiculed in order to lose their clout on the subject, I think I might leak something that showed it to be 83. Then I'd ATTACK the MESSENGER based on their faulty reporting or their sloppy method of procurement or vetting.

The Dan Rather episode really sent a chill through investigative journalism. It was so easy to orchestrate that little ruse, and the end result of CBS's top anchor's head rolling had to be a sobering moment for the next professional journalist considering a hard-hitting expose'.

But that's part of the bigger problem IMO--- none of the Mainstream press have the cajones or the desire to bring her down, since she's a meal ticket bc of the guaranteed # of eyeballs she brings to the scene of her train wrecks. Ugh, it's sickening, but it's like they're afraid that some other network or reporter will get a coup or exclusive on something important, and they'll suffer in the ratings. There's no such thing as an independent press, and Sarah has managed to punk the MM for too long.

CNN is such a hind-tit sucker right now, and they think that they can ride her coat-tails to ratings success bc Sarah realizes that regardless of her contract, FOX is going to be behind the real GOP contenders.

Sarah is the merely shiny distraction in this game, at least in the big picture of national politics. But make no mistake: I still want to see her cut off at the knees for the damage she's done to the political dialogue in our country. Hobbled as a political voice, that is.

When I read that Sarah's SAT scores/IQ reports are invalidated because Sarah was in the Wasilla Honor Society, I don't assume "Well, that was debunked. What now?". No, what I'm really wondering is, "WTF is the Wasilla Honor Society?" and
"How does a stupid-ass liar like Sarah Palin qualify for any organization with the word 'HONOR' in its title?".

Even if my rambling above is disjointed and none of it makes sense to anyone, thanks for letting me vent here. Knowing you care, I feel better already. ;^) J

mistah charley, ph.d.

8/22/2011 05:58:23

Laura, you write "Someone put this up there - someone who has been on Scribd since 2008 - for some reason right now.
It's worth looking at. I wonder why it was put together the way it is, and why now."

From what other people have stated here, at least part of the information in the document in question has been debunked. So we already know that the person who put it up disseminates false information, either carelessly or intentionally. Is the target Palin? Or is the target those who pass on this info, which is then shown to be false, showing the passers-on to be unreliable info sources? (the Dan Rather gambit, in other words - although so far as I know it was not demonstrated that he passed on false info)

Either way, I'm not going to put much more of my beautiful mind's bandwidth to use processing this - GIGO, as they say.

Ottoline

8/22/2011 06:12:09

It was not the fact of the debunking but the nature of it that convinced me the SAT form, at least, was fake. The debunking logic made sense to me. Plus the ease of forging such a thing: I could do it myself. But you are right to say that nothing is for sure, until we know it is. That's why the Gusty debunking does not seem similar to me: because anyone can strap on a fake belly, but one cannot remove an actual pregnancy to take a little break before delivering a 6+ pound baby a few weeks later.

And the discussion about these documents illustrates for me why the Babyhoax is the one thing Palin can be nailed on: one either IS or IS NOT pregnant. Unlike faked documents or financial cheating: there's always the endless discussion about the details, which prove or disprove guilt. You can be a little bit guilty, but you can't be a little bit pregnant.

lilly lily

8/22/2011 07:01:48

Sarah has planted stuff in the past. Once I recall she left her index cards behind. The reporters pounced on it and the police took it. The reporters protested and got it back.

A plant. Supposedly she was buying property in one of the small communities on Long Island. There were even people from Alaska who had visited the real estate offices and supposedly she was buying three ajoining properties.

Palin loves this cat and mouse stuff. What else is the will I or won't I run?

Cat and Mouse. Though she hates cats according to her friends.

I think at the same event she dumped Todd, and left him to find a ride for himself. He shrugged it off. But the woman is screwy.

But everything should be examined and re-examined if she is running.

I wanted to get involved with other things when I thought she was finished, but like an old war horse out in a pasture, I hear the sounds of an nincompoop running and I get pulled back in.

For and example.
A man who used to run a blog, who had the biggest crush on Brittany Spears, posted today. "That only Sarah Palin can pull the GOP together." It is the same as his crush on Brittany. Those two are sisters under the skin as far as intelligence and nuttiness. But he loves them both. As he says, no matter how messed up Brittany Spears is he would jump her bones.

I must say some of the posters jumped his bones on that prediction. I no longer post there, became disgusted with the anti Obama junk, but do look in on occasion for the various views. Very outspoken, and for its sheer nuttiness.

FrostyAK

8/22/2011 07:17:31

Agreed that debunking has not always been accurate. But this mess looks like an amateur put it together. I was unable to read much of it, because the adds covered the text.

Now, that said, I believe $P's IQ is not very high. If she did well in HS, then we need to ask "did well in what kind of courses"? Remedial math for the college bound? Basic English? Or the hard stuff like calculus and advanced sciences? DID she ever get a degree from a college? Any of them all of them?

Was/is she learning disabled? I doubt we will ever know.

I was going to say that her ability to read from a teleprompter would rule out dyslexia, but obviously more has been unearthed about the disability since I was in the business of education. Thanks for that clarification Allie.

My thoughts on the subject are:

1. Something in her brain synapses makes it difficult for her to speak extemporaneously in normal sentences, hence the word salad. Personally, I lose words but am able to substitute something relevant in a fairly short period of time.

2. If any of these scores are close to accurate, either she is stump stupid, or doesn't test well. We all know she isn't the brightest crayon in the box. People are hired to do her 'thinking'.

3. There are obviously psychological factors that enter into the cognitive malfunctions. How much they enter that realm we can only guess.

4. Until someone who has the cahones to identify themselves comes forward with information they should not have, we need to take all such 'finds' with a pound of salt.

I think Laura handled this 'info dump' extremely well. Beware that which just falls into your lap, it might very well bite.

eclecticsandra

8/22/2011 07:33:45

I'm very suspicious of the way the IQ score is displayed. This is something that would be held privately, i.e., parents would not be given these scores. Only trained people would see them, so why would a bell curve be placed in the record. All trained people know what IQ means. Also there was no reference to the instrument used to measure the intelligence or the year of the testing.

I have always suspected her IQ was about 110, but some learning and personality problems lowered her skill level.

AFM

8/22/2011 09:29:44

I dunno anything about college. All you have to do is hear speak and you are scratching your head asking "what did she say"? I don't know how she managed to bullshit her way to the governorship but people are wise to her now and she will never win in the general election.

Allie

8/22/2011 10:05:03

One of the deceptions of dyslexics is they develop a very good memory early on to help cover up the disability. I think that was Bush's coping mechanism. Other coping mechanisms are distraction and pretending not to understand so that they get another shot at figuring out what is being said or read. Palin is a distractor and a pretender, I think. I used to work with someone who feigned confusion as soon as you got to the third sentence because that was over her limit for comprehension. Later, she would misrepresent conversations and people would get mad at her "lying". I finally figured out that her comprehension of the conversation was so distorted that to her it wasn't lying; it was what she understood had happened. It was so frustrating, partly because it was hard to tell when was misremembering or just stirring up shit. She also reversed letters and numbers. There was another hospital that was abbreviated 'MMC' and she actually wrote it down as 'CCM'. Not kidding. When I saw that I was blown away by what an impairment dyslexia is. Phone numbers were a nightmare.

Frosty, I was hoping you would weigh in on this so you could critique whether the local info was accurately expressed and recorded. Proper names of schools? newspapers? dates? And, I think I probably should have used extemp rather than contemp for what I meant...speaking spontaneously and not from prepared remarks.

Oh, I was going to mention that I saw my IQ score in my file when I was a senior. No bell curve, just the number. I don't remember why or how it happened (altho' it wasn't because I was snooping); I think it was when I met with my advisor to talk about college. Hey, I am just grateful it had three digits! :)

FrostyAK

8/22/2011 10:35:37

As I could not read most of it, I cannot comment on it - the ads plus my visual problems make it impossible.

I know she went to Wasilla High School. The local newspaper has been The Frontiersman for the 30 years I've been here. The Anchorage newspapers are the current ADN, and I believe it was the Anchorage Times that went out of business some years ago.

I saw my IQ score in the 6th grade, cause the papers were on the teacher's desk, and I was alone in the room. I snooped. In HS, the counselor refused to tell my mom what it was. I don't expect $P's has been leaked, though I do know that some of the school office personnel here are terrible gossips.

Would the McCain campaign people have requested and gotten this kind of information?

KMiller

8/22/2011 12:14:22

"I don't believe it is real...I'm a teacher, and if [Sarah] had an IQ of 83, she would not be functioning enough to graduate from college."

Keep in mind, we have never seen any proof that she DID ever graduate...other than the Heaths and Palins claiming that she did.

search4more

8/22/2011 14:02:01

Ottoline,

>"And the discussion about these documents illustrates for me why the Babyhoax is the one thing Palin can be nailed on: one either IS or IS NOT pregnant."

I would say that the non prescription glasses would be the easiest thing to nail her on. It's pretty easy to tell from hi-res pictures and it's hiding in plain sight. The glasses are a major part of her brand and, the story is very simple and media friendly. It's a story where the headline writing is very simple.

If the media would ask her about it then I think there is a strong chance she will deny it because that is her tendency and then that should increase the size of the story.

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